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Your offer/gift nonsense does not apply to what Christ accomplished. It cannot be undone and it was for the entire human species. Whether or not we believe it and take full advantage of it is the only consideration that involves our receipt of the gift. It is more like someone saving your life without your permission. Your life is still saved and what you do about it is your only concern.
“What must I do to be saved?”
Jesus and The Apostle Paul: “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.”
Your offer/gift nonsense does not apply to what Christ accomplished. It cannot be undone and it was for the entire human species. Whether or not we believe it and take full advantage of it is the only consideration that involves our receipt of the gift. It is more like someone saving your life without your permission. Your life is still saved and what you do about it is your only concern.
Jesus himself said that salvation is a gift and only need be asked for as per John 6:10-14 in his conversation with the Samaritan woman.
And no one is saved until they first believe in Christ as is made clear in places such as Acts 16:31, John 6:40, John 3:16,18.
You are in denial of plainly stated scripture. Period.
Jesus himself said that salvation is a gift and only need be asked for as per John 6:10-14 in his conversation with the Samaritan woman.
And no one is saved until they first believe in Christ as is made clear in places such as Acts 16:31, John 6:40, John 3:16,18.
You are in denial of plainly stated scripture. Period.
For the salvation to do you any good you must respond to it. I do not deny that, but you are saved whether or not you take advantage of it. The consequences for not taking advantage of it are not likely to be pleasant! But saved you are anyway!!!
Your offer/gift nonsense does not apply to what Christ accomplished.It cannot be undone and it was for the entire human species. Whether or not we believe it and take full advantage of it is the only consideration that involves our receipt of the gift. It is more like someone saving your life without your permission. Your life is still saved and what you do about it is your only concern.
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Originally Posted by jimmiej
“What must I do to be saved?”
Jesus and The Apostle Paul: “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.”
Mystic: Nothing…
Wrong again, Jimmie. We have to take advantage of our salvation by trying to love God and each other every day and repent when we fail. That is NOT "nothing"! But that has no effect on our salvation, just what we make of it.
Wrong again, Jimmie. We have to take advantage of our salvation by trying to love God and each other every day and repent when we fail. That is NOT "nothing"! But that has no effect on our salvation, just what we make of it.
In other words, Jimmie, if you do not take advantage of it, you will end up in the lake of fire to have the dross refined out of your Spirit.
The scripture says the "lake of fire" is a place of torment day and night, it says not one word of being a place of "refining dross out of your Spirit!"
For the salvation to do you any good you must respond to it. I do not deny that, but you are saved whether or not you take advantage of it. The consequences for not taking advantage of it are not likely to be pleasant! But saved you are anyway!!!
No, you are not saved whether or not you take advantage of it. What do you not understand about
''He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on Him. (John 3:16)
Or Acts 16:30-31
Question asked: What must I do to be saved?
Answer given: Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.
Or John 6:40
For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.
Not one of those verses say that you are saved whether or not you take advantage of it. They all say that you must believe to have eternal life.
Your beliefs and claims are neither biblical or Christian.
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