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that is not what you originally said here is your quote.
in other words, you are saying only those who have been regenerated by God could be considered good.
I think he does believe that the Grace of Jesus saves us, pneuma. But he does not believe that the Grace of Jesus (His perfect agape love in His Human consciousness) covers any other human consciousness until they believe whatever BF thinks they must believe ABOUT Jesus and God. There simply is no reasoning with that exclusivist point of view, pneuma.
I think he does believe that the Grace of Jesus saves us, pneuma. But he does not believe that the Grace of Jesus (His perfect agape love in His Human consciousness) covers any other human consciousness until they believe whatever BF thinks they must believe ABOUT Jesus and God. There simply is no reasoning with that exclusivist point of view, pneuma.
I've explicitly stated many times that God predestines us to election. His grace saves those whom he chooses to save. All human beings are sinful, and we are separated by God except for his grace. No one is good from birth, we all do evil. (Rom 3:11, 3:23).
But God saves us and the righteousness of Christ is what makes us "good" in his eyes. We receive the righteousness of Jesus, the perfect God-man who died on a cross to pay for our sin. Romans 3-5 covers this in detail.
God has no irreconcilable attributes, but we seem to have irreconcilable views of God, JBF. Your answers not only were unhelpful, but they also were not answers. Thanks for trying, but we simply do not see the same God that Jesus unambiguously demonstrated on the Cross. Christ's God of agape love NEVER has to be appeased by anything, let alone such a horrendous and evil brutality.
Well, it is certainly written in holy scripture the following.
1Co 2:14, But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Well, it is certainly written in holy scripture the following.
1Co 2:14, But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Your lack of spiritual discernment has been noted!
Your lack of spiritual discernment has been noted!
Funny...
No, my friend.
I have been born again; so I am not the natural man.
I receive the things of the Spirit of God; even every word that is found written in the Holy Bible.
You appear to be able to accept 1 Corinthians 2:14 as being inspired scripture inasmuch as you might be able to use it as a sword against me.
But do you accept 2 Timothy 3:15-17 on the same level?
For, it is that scripture that tells me that it is the holy scriptures that we find in the Bible that are truly defined as "the things of the Spirit of God."
Funny...
No, my friend.
I have been born again; so I am not the natural man.
I receive the things of the Spirit of God; even every word that is found written in the Holy Bible.
You appear to be able to accept 1 Corinthians 2:14 as being inspired scripture inasmuch as you might be able to use it as a sword against me.
But do you accept 2 Timothy 3:15-17 on the same level?
For, it is that scripture that tells me that it is the holy scriptures that we find in the Bible that are truly defined as "the things of the Spirit of God."
I just posted scripture that showed Jesus promised to send the Holy Spirit (Comforter), NOT the BIble. He sent that Spirit on Pentecost. When and where did He promise to send the Bible????
I just posted scripture that showed Jesus promised to send the Holy Spirit (Comforter), NOT the BIble. He sent that Spirit on Pentecost. When and where did He promise to send the Bible????
How ironic. You quoted scripture to say we don’t need scripture.
I just posted scripture that showed Jesus promised to send the Holy Spirit (Comforter), NOT the BIble. He sent that Spirit on Pentecost. When and where did He promise to send the Bible????
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Originally Posted by jimmiej
How ironic. You quoted scripture to say we don’t need scripture.
Hanni, where are you? ....... Pentecost what does that mean? When is it in the timing?
I believe we are to compare the old/new in relation to each other
I just posted scripture that showed Jesus promised to send the Holy Spirit (Comforter), NOT the BIble. He sent that Spirit on Pentecost. When and where did He promise to send the Bible????
I Thes. 2:13
"For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe."
But of course it doesn't work in those who say the word of God is of men as you do, Mystic!
And that's because you don't believe it's truth, plain and simple as Paul put it!
How ironic. You quoted scripture to say we don’t need scripture.
No, Jimmie. I posted scripture to show that we do need it, but we need to TEST it against God's Holy Spirit of agape love revealed and unambiguously demonstrated by Jesus to be sure it IS scripture and not human corruption of scripture.
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