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Your interpretation of God's motivation is barbaric, NOT you.
It contradicts what you have been told God said, but NOT what Jesus Christ revealed and unambiguously demonstrated about God's Holy Spirit of agape love, BF. You don't need to believe my experience, but why do you not believe Jesus's revelation and demonstration of God's True Nature???
at this point he is on spiritual level (soul, psychic) that would not allow him to comprehend pneumatic type of logic.
Your interpretation of God's motivation is barbaric, NOT you.
It contradicts what you have been told God said, but NOT what Jesus Christ revealed and unambiguously demonstrated about God's Holy Spirit of agape love, BF.
At least as far as you have understood.
And what you believe you experienced coincides with what you believe you have been told of Jesus.
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You don't need to believe my experience, but why do you not believe Jesus's revelation and demonstration of God's True Nature???
Why do you believe that revelation of Jesus and God's true nature is correct?
at this point he is on spiritual level (soul, psychic) that would not allow him to comprehend pneumatic type of logic.
Maybe or maybe it's just the conclusion he came to. Just like you have your reasons so do other people. None of this is a problem unless there are people out there insisting they have some special insight be it personal experience or book learning. It's an opinion; that's all.
at this point he is on spiritual level (soul, psychic) that would not allow him to comprehend pneumatic type of logic.
Why do you believe that? There is no shortage of men in history that have made that claim and have been shown to be crazy, or liars, or simply mistaken.
Why do you believe that? There is no shortage of men in history that have made that claim and have been shown to be crazy, or liars, or simply mistaken.
What if some of those people authored the Bible?
Edit: I'll change authored to contribute. I know most literalists believe God authored the Bible and therefore it must be accurate. That's a self-loop tho.
At least as far as you have understood.
And what you believe you experienced coincides with what you believe you have been told of Jesus.
Why do you believe that revelation of Jesus and God's true nature is correct?
I have more reason to believe it than you do because I directly experienced it. You just have your conviction that the Bible contains God's inspired word so you have to believe it, and yet you don't. Why do you keep asking questions I have already answered multiple times? Do you have memory problems?
I have more reason to believe it than you do because I directly experienced it. You just have your conviction that the Bible contains God's inspired word so you have to believe it, and yet you don't. Why do you keep asking questions I have already answered multiple times? Do you have memory problems?
This is why I like MissH. She was more of a "You shouldn't believe me. Go see for yourself."
It's not just Mystic that has had this experience. Even atheists have them. Mystic was an atheist at the time. I'm completely using my experience because I read it as Jesus as well but I know think that was brain priming so if I ever had an experience like that I would attribute it to the divine. It is the standard thing to feel in a transcendent state. It happens all the time. It's just like those NDE where the stories match up. Not everyone is going to call it Jesus. I think that is where Mystic gets it wrong in trying to insist that he has some proper interpretation. I myself, think it was some mental/emotional problem I had blocked me and I finally recovered. I lean heavily toward a neurological phenom and enjoy watching scientists and doctors discuss it. Look up "peak experience". There is a lot we don't know.
When I first read of mystics experience I was a little skeptical myself, but the simple fact is while mystic came to his revelation through his experience I came to a lot of the same conclusions he does through the study of scripture, so for other to say what mystic believes is not scriptural just tells me they do not understand the scriptures or more likely don't understand what mystic is trying to get across. Me and mystic do have our differences in understanding but we both stand on the ground that we are to listen only to what Jesus said and did over the words and thoughts of any man whether that man be Moses or Elijah. And yes that IS scriptural.
I have more reason to believe it than you do because I directly experienced it. You just have your conviction that the Bible contains God's inspired word so you have to believe it, and yet you don't. Why do you keep asking questions I have already answered multiple times? Do you have memory problems?
The followers of Jim Jones, David Koresh, and others all said the same thing.
They believed it because their hearts told them it was true.
When I first read of mystics experience I was a little skeptical myself, but the simple fact is while mystic came to his revelation through his experience I came to a lot of the same conclusions he does through the study of scripture, so for other to say what mystic believes is not scriptural just tells me they do not understand the scriptures or more likely don't understand what mystic is trying to get across. Me and mystic do have our differences in understanding but we both stand on the ground that we are to listen only to what Jesus said and did over the words and thoughts of any man whether that man be Moses or Elijah. And yes that IS scriptural.
I see the same things in the Bible most of the heretics do as well. That was pre-experience too. It's like any good work of literature. You add yourself to it.
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