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Old 09-04-2021, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

Actually, what the Bible teaches is that lack of fear of God is a sign of unbelief.

I agree I cannot know the condition of a person's heart. But if I am speaking to someone who is a Hindu, a Muslim, a Buddist, or an atheist, by their outward statement, we know they are guilty of idolatry, without faith in Jesus, and condemned. So in love, we tell them of Jesus, who is the True God, and alone the only one who can save them from eternal condemnation.

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Old 09-04-2021, 08:30 AM
 
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The point is that at that time there was a setting up, and development in progress of particular types of religion And religious practices, which was based on what was recorded in the Hebrew Scripture, and their current writings that were available to them, from the Romans and Greeks......the gospels, and epistles have their own place, and that had nothing to do with any individuals that were not part of those systems

And we have the same situation now, at the latter end of the 2000 years (2 days) which was appointed at the beginning/Genesis- the 7 Days of creation
Sorry. Still not following. What exactly was your point?
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Old 09-04-2021, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

Actually, what the Bible teaches is that lack of fear of God is a sign of unbelief.

I agree I cannot know the condition of a person's heart. But if I am speaking to someone who is a Hindu, a Muslim, a Buddist, or an atheist, by their outward statement, we know they are guilty of idolatry, without faith in Jesus, and condemned. So in love, we tell them of Jesus, who is the True God, and alone the only one who can save them from eternal condemnation.
Yet, you were not born with a spirit of fear, but one of power, love, and that of a sound mind.
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Old 09-04-2021, 12:35 PM
 
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Sorry. Still not following. What exactly was your point?
Meerkat's posts actually require some thinking about them, BF, something you seem not to be accustomed to doing.
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Old 09-04-2021, 12:42 PM
 
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Meerkat's posts actually require some thinking about them, BF, something you seem not to be accustomed to doing.
More of that agape love you always boast about?

Good grief, that's arrogant.

I'm reminded of the Jewish-Gnostics that Titus had to deal with. After SOUNDLY rebuking them and exposing them as false teachers, Paul described them in Titus 1:16 "They profess to know God, but they deny him by their works. They are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good work."

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Old 09-04-2021, 01:01 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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Sorry. Still not following. What exactly was your point?
I’ll just leave it there BF, I’m not really concerned if you don’t get my point
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Old 09-04-2021, 01:04 PM
 
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I’ll just leave it there BF, I’m not really concerned if you don’t get my point
You quoted me. I'm guessing you completely missed the point of why I did.
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Old 09-04-2021, 01:10 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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You quoted me. I'm guessing you completely missed the point of why I did.
Maybe
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Old 09-04-2021, 02:04 PM
 
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More of that agape love you always boast about?
Good grief, that's arrogant.
I'm reminded of the Jewish-Gnostics that Titus had to deal with. After SOUNDLY rebuking them and exposing them as false teachers, Paul described them in Titus 1:16 "They profess to know God, but they deny him by their works. They are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good work."
Well, I'm reminded about something concerning pearls and swine, and I was going to point that out to Meerkat, but I think she gets it.
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Old 09-04-2021, 08:49 PM
 
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It seems fair enough to say that calling a Christian a heretic is a very bad thing for a Christian to do, and, as for City-Data, would probably be looked at as a "personal attack."
I suppose that the person in question can be identified as a Christian under the broad definition of these boards by which we define who is a Christian; that a Christian is someone who says to Jesus, "Lord, Lord".

But I would contend that not everyone who is defined as a Christian necessarily has a right to the kingdom of heaven.

That right is secured by the fact of believing in Jesus and what He did for us on the Cross. This is how I would define a believer under the narrower terms of my own specification. I believe that salvation is obtained only through faith in Jesus and what He did for us on the Cross, in dying as a propitiatory sacrifice by which He took our place on Calvary and took the penalty of God's just requirement that our sins be punished. He died in our place (1 Corinthians 15:1-4); and this is the only way to salvation; to believe in Jesus and what He did for you, and to keep in memory what He did for you on the Cross (again, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4).
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