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I believe Paul taught what he believed was right for the church as he saw it in that time and place. The man was responsible for the spread of Christianity beyond its obscure roots in a tiny nothing corner of the Roman Empire. The message of redemption and loving one another caught fire because he carried the torch by ship around the Mediterranean. He was the perfect choice--a learned Jew and a Roman citizen and tenacious as anything. But he was a man, and a man writing letters to specific groups in specific places. We can find value in his words to apply to our lives today, but in other areas, it's no more relevant to us today than worrying over what to do if our ox gores another's servant.
Thanks for clearing that up. Now I know what kind of post to expect from you
I believe Paul taught what he believed was right for the church as he saw it in that time and place. The man was responsible for the spread of Christianity beyond its obscure roots in a tiny nothing corner of the Roman Empire. The message of redemption and loving one another caught fire because he carried the torch by ship around the Mediterranean. He was the perfect choice--a learned Jew and a Roman citizen and tenacious as anything. But he was a man, and a man writing letters to specific groups in specific places. We can find value in his words to apply to our lives today, but in other areas, it's no more relevant to us today than worrying over what to do if our ox gores another's servant.
Well, I for one take ox goring as very serious bizness!
Fortunately, though, my 'ox policy' was not limited to just 'sola scriptura' but also supplemented with the latest science has to offer in the form of a hemostasis QuikClot bandage - without which if 'bible alone' I (the 'owner') would have bled-out an hour away from any medical-help that fateful day!
Since I survived, the ox was spared from a painful stoning and was able to become some tasty hamburger that fed some hungry peoples!
That is why it is VERY important for priests to say that they welcome "all Christians". If they just say "we welcome Catholics to our church", that broadcasts a message to a very specific audience.
Is this in reference to something specific or a specific context? I don't believe I've ever heard a priest say anything like this at Mass.
I know the 1 book of Enoch is in other canons mike and that is the point. You say it is not scriptural, others say it is and your only defense for that is YOUR tradition.
it is obvious that you do. Mike making Peter the rock of the church makes peter the head of the church, the foundation of the church. In other words you are building on the wrong foundation. Scripture tells us who the rock is, who the foundation we build on is and it is not Peter. So again you are placing your tradition ahead of scripture and taking away Jesus Christ rightful place.
Is this in reference to something specific or a specific context? I don't believe I've ever heard a priest say anything like this at Mass.
Usually in the missal it says we welcome other Christians, but don't try to take Communion here or we will burn you at the stake. I may not be remembering the exact verbiage.
usually in the missal it says we welcome other christians, but don't try to take communion here or we will burn you at the stake. i may not be remembering the exact verbiage. :d
Is this in reference to something specific or a specific context? I don't believe I've ever heard a priest say anything like this at Mass.
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Originally Posted by Mightyqueen801
Usually in the missal it says we welcome other Christians, but don't try to take Communion here or we will burn you at the stake. I may not be remembering the exact verbiage.
I've heard priests say it at any moment during mass whether during communion, at the start of service, end of service, etc.
The intent of whatever it is they are trying to say to those in the church is an invitation to be part of something or to attend something. So it will be along the lines of "We invite everyone/all Christians to......" if they want to speak directly to the church, they will say Catholic or Catholic Christians, not Christians specifically.
I've heard priests say it at any moment during mass whether during communion, at the start of service, end of service, etc.
The intent of whatever it is they are trying to say to those in the church is an invitation to be part of something or to attend something. So it will be along the lines of "We invite everyone/all Christians to......" if they want to speak directly to the church, they will say Catholic or Catholic Christians, not Christians specifically.
At one parish I used to attend regularly, the cantor would give a general welcome before Mass saying something to the effect of we're glad you're here, but please do not come up to receive Communion if you are not Catholic and properly disposed.
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