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Originally Posted by AlGreen
no, sir. it's you who is telling yourself that. houston has more nationalities than atlanta. why is that so hard for you to accept?
but that's not even half of how houston is more diverse. it also sits at a crossroad of regional cultures. southern, cajun, texan, and nowadays mexican culture meet in houston. take away all the foreigners and you still have culturally diverse metro. atlanta has nothing like that (even though i'm sure you'll try your hardest to say otherwise)
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Nationalities?Is that what you got out of the argument I made?I never said it did or did not.My aguments are as follows:
You see the breaksown of the regions of the world in which the populations are represented in America.If you notice like I said before is that the main difference is that Atlanta has a more broad reach of people that itb draws from worldwide.Atlanta has more British,French,Italian from Europe.
Also in the 2000 census(which is not accurate anymore has Atlanta as the 3rd most populous city with African population by birth.Total numbers NOT percentages.After NYC and D.C.Atlanta has 34,302 from vs 22,683. More than half of that in Houston are from Nigerian.Now how is that more diverse?Or for that matter how is it not?What do you base your comments on?
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The only argument I keep hearing is that Houston has a total number of more Nationalities?Well if they are from one region where there are the smallest concentration countries that are in greater proximity to Houston,then what exactly makes it more diverse?
The crossroads of regional cultures?
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take away all the foreigners and you still have culturally diverse metro. atlanta has nothing like that (even though i'm sure you'll try your hardest to say otherwise) say Atlanta does have anything close to it
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No need to try hard at all if you really knew what you were talking about.
The difference betwen what I have been saying and what you guys want to hear and what you actually believe is what is the sad irony.
I not once ever said WHAT it was that Houston was lacking other than rail system.Even then I then said they had one but its still vey developmental.Its not a "system".Funny how no one had anything to say about that,yet they lashed on the whole diversity issue.I said over and over that diversity is more than what some of you are making it seem.
You say its nationalities.I never said anything about this but you accused me of saying Houston had less.In YOUR mind,this is what diversity is,sans your emphasis.
Someone says you can tell by consulates.First off Houston has been bigger than Atlanta for a longer time.Atlanta has gained more new consulates in the last 20 years than any other city in America.There are exceptions like France ,but the bulk of Houston's consulates come from guess where?All South of Houston.
So for people who wanna use the number consulates and Nationalities to somehow equate that with diversity(at least soley),are really being obtuse .I already said that diversity is more than just one category .Yet you people act like you cannot understand that concept.
I also have said repeatedly that I have no problem if someone says they feel Houston is more diverse.Once again its though you guys keep saying it as if its a landslide and it simply is not.
The main difference between Houston and Atlanta is that Houston has actual communities designate where they are.In Atlanta its they are living all over.Its more integrated.Thats not to say there are not concentrations of such people.Forest Park for one is an extremely diverse suburb near the airport.It has a particularly huge Vietnamese and ,Latino community.The corridor as many know it ,along Buford hwy is extremely diverse.Over the years more West Indians and Africans have joined the Koreans,Chinese,and Latino residents.This is a stretch that runs from North Atlanta all the way in Duluth in Gwinnet County.
The area from Downtown near Auburn Ave(MLK.Jr. neighborhood),and in the Stone Mountain areas are where the Bulk of West Indians are.Jamaicans,Bajan,Virgin Islands,you name it.Also the Africans have a significant presence out there as well.
The Indian population is the most integrated.They can be found EVERYWHERE as well as the Latino population.
Now first off some of you insist that there are no crossroads of culture converging in Atlanta.Well thats not exactly true.Atlanta has been populated longer than Houston although age wise,they were incorporated around the same time.So some of the cultures that you refer to had a direct impact of how Atlanta was formed as well as the nation.
For example: Cabbagetown Atlanta as it exist today,is now a trendy urban neighborhood.It was the center for all the Appalachian people to work at one of the largest cotton mills in the country at the time.To this day their descendent's in much smaller numbers live in that area.The quilting industry later parlayed into the carpet industry in the nearby mountain town of Dalton Georgia which is known as the Carpet Capital of the World.More than 90% of the functional carpet produced in the world today is made within a 65-mile radius of the city.Shaw,Mohawk ,and Alladin Mills all are headquartered there.
Many people forget that Atlanta was just behind Nashville when it came to the influence of country music scenes.The father of Gospel Music was from Georgia(Thomas Dorsey)Villa Rica Georgia(suburb).So that scene in Houston that someone mention as being prominent as Atlanta's was not quite true.Just as when I say Atlanta has a large Latino culture scene with Tejano and you guys say it began in the Houston areas.
If you want to bring up cajun,then I suppose we can say the influence from the coast of Georgia and the Carolinas as with the Gullah and Geechie people brought there culture and foods on the landscape of not only Atlanta but African Americans everywhere.
The Native American presence is felt by names of our streets and towns and artifacts that you can sometimes find just digging up the ground.The Cherokee Nations home and before they were forcibly moved during the "Trail of Tears" was in North Georgia.Whenever you visit the our Chattahoochee River,or the mountains you can see what impact that they had on the land to this day.
P.S.AlGreen;I was posting this when I got your message.It just took me sometime to finish all I wanted to say.How is this for ignoring you
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. Its sole purpose is to make quick money by overexposing catchy tunes to the masses and them moving on to the next one. IMO the majority of the popular music from Atlanta and Dallas is only for having fun or dancing to and half the time it just looks "country". Don't get me wrong I could listen to "Do The Heisman" or "Boogie Board 3000" all day, but it's still crap. It's just catchy. I could even listen to a little Dorrough, but Bone should be touched for taking an already bad New Orleans song and turning it into straight garbage.
