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Old 09-22-2022, 03:19 PM
 
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Why are people excited about killing babies? Its sick.
These same people who are pro-abortion say that we need more immigrants because of a labor shortage. I guess they can't put two and two together.
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Old 09-22-2022, 04:28 PM
 
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Women's lives are a stake? Um no, the unborn baby's lives are at stake.
Do you believe life begins at fertilisation?
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Old 09-22-2022, 05:13 PM
 
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Do you believe life begins at fertilisation?
Yes, I do.
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Old 09-22-2022, 06:05 PM
 
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Yes, I do.
As does 95% of biologists.

Those biologists are mostly democrat, liberal, non religious, and pro choice.

And 95% agree that life beings at conception.
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Old 09-22-2022, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Judge blocks the Indiana abortion ban a week after it took effect

An Indiana judge on Thursday blocked the state's abortion ban from being enforced, putting the new law on hold as abortion clinic operators argue that it violates the state constitution.

The judge wrote "there is reasonable likelihood that this significant restriction of personal autonomy offends the liberty guarantees of the Indiana Constitution" and that the clinics will prevail in the lawsuit.

https://www.npr.org/2022/09/22/11244...e%20week%20ago.

Another one bites the dust.
Good.
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Old 09-22-2022, 06:35 PM
 
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As does 95% of biologists.

Those biologists are mostly democrat, liberal, non religious, and pro choice.

And 95% agree that life beings at conception.
and you and Indiana shouldnt have any right to tell other people what to do with their bodies. Its between their god and themselves.
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Old 09-22-2022, 07:14 PM
 
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and you and Indiana shouldnt have any right to tell other people what to do with their bodies. Its between their god and themselves.
It's not just the female body involved.
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Old 09-22-2022, 07:48 PM
 
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Do you believe life begins at fertilisation?
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Yes, I do.
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As does 95% of biologists.

Those biologists are mostly democrat, liberal, non religious, and pro choice.

And 95% agree that life beings at conception.
Fantastic!

So perhaps you can enlighten me as to why IVF has been specifically exempted from the law in Indiana?

There is no law against indefinite storage or destruction of embryos. IVF is excepted from abortion law, so if you need to “selectively reduce” the number of embryos in the womb, you can go ahead and do that.

If you have too many children and don’t know what to do with your unused embryos, you can have them put into the uterus so they’ll pass with your next menstrual period.

So to wit, it appears ok to kill life as long as ya didn’t have sex to make it.

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The law now specifically exempts in vitro fertilization so as not to interfere with those treatment processes.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wth...f-b63fc6b3ba20

(I have no issue with either abortion or IVF, FTR.)
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Old 09-22-2022, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Like most states, the true majority is diluted through gerrymandering that disproportionately allocates seats to rural, conservative districts. This is how it is possible for Republicans to put through laws that, were they put to a vote of the people would be easily rejected. All states should have an easily accessible referendum process to limit partisan abuse that circumvents the will of the voters.
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Old 09-22-2022, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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It's not just the female body involved.
It's not your body involved either. MYOB!
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