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Nothing wrong with that at all. What IS questionable however, is why would someone collect many hundreds or perhaps thousands of ballots and then drop them off at 3:00 AM at a remote drop box. Maybe he just had a large family who couldn't get out to the drop box.
Link to an actual occurrence? Where has it been documented with verifiable paper proof that, in fact, hundreds/thousands of ballots are dropped off in the dead of night and counted - never to be verified as to legitimacy?
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This is a serious question. How, exactly, are ballot boxes "stuffed." Any vote - before it is counted - needs to be verified for legitimacy, as to registration, etc. Further, audits pf total votes cast against those of registered voters, and that includes same-day registration - which is an unknown until the actual day - would disclose those who had double-voted.
Is the assertion that random ballots are 'stuffed' into these boxes and no verification of the legitimacy of each individual ballot is done? In the tens of thousands????? Really????
Late counting of mail-in ballots is still necessary in many states because the legislatures will not allow early counting of early or mail-in voting for fear a leak would discourage people on the 'losing' side from voting. So, we can once again expect howls of 'rigged' and 'ballot box stuffing when those lawfully late-counted LAWFUL VOTES are tallied.
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The groups who were supporting the drop box surveillance has told their people to stand down. Apparently the US attorney's office for the District of Arizona says there are criminal charges pending. Looks like some folks are going to join the January 6th riotos. https://www.democracydocket.com/news...illance-plans/
WASHINGTON, D.C. — On Thursday, Oct. 27, two right-wing groups named in a lawsuit brought by the League of Women Voters of Arizona announced they would abandon “sponsorship” of an operation to monitor drop boxes. In an email they refer to as an “Official Stand Down order,” the Lions of Liberty and Yavapai County Preparedness Team — a group with links to the Oath Keepers — stated that “Operation Drop Box is officially Closed.” The organizations pointed to the lawsuit “and a possible restraining order” as the reason for their decision to “step[] down” from their “sponsorship of Operation Drop Box.”
Yesterday, the U.S. Attorney for the District of Arizona announced there were criminal charges pending in several election-threat cases.
I don't know that they're actually "standing down" or pretending to do it and doing a CYA maneuver for legal reasons. Time will tell.
However, it appears property around the drop boxes in AZ have been cordoned off earlier, and with security on duty (as reported by the OP of this thread).
An interesting note from the OP's video in his first post: the people watching/filming others dropping off their ballots had their own license plates covered. Now, why would they need to hide their license plates from being photographed or filmed if they're doing nothing at all illegal? What are they afraid of? The hypocrisy is epic.
It was pointed out in the video by the newscaster on site.
I got a notice that my ballot was at the post office and on its way to the county board of elections. Ballotrax is a convenient platform to track a ballot at each step. I remember getting notified in 2020, even when my ballot had been processed by the board of elections.
Voting absentee is so convenient. From requesting a ballot online, to filling it out at my leisure, instead of getting 2 witness signatures I instead use the option to have it notarized, which is a free service offered by my credit union nearby. I then sign, date, and drop it in the mail. And now I'm informed where my ballot is every step of the way.
Agreed, but pretty sure I never made that assertion, myself.
Also, the old folks in lawn chairs are obviously a different category than the doofuses wearing LBVs and thigh holsters, right?
Sorry, I'm not trying to pin the general argument on you and if I did I apologize.
Hard to say. It seems those (with legally carried guns per state law) are the ones that were there for a bit and left...but are being portrayed as whom is there watching.
I don't know that they're actually "standing down" or pretending to do it and doing a CYA maneuver for legal reasons. Time will tell.
However, it appears property around the drop boxes in AZ have been cordoned off earlier, and with security on duty (as reported by the OP of this thread).
An interesting note from the OP's video in his first post: the people watching/filming others dropping off their ballots had their own license plates covered. Now, why would they need to hide their license plates from being photographed or filmed if they're doing nothing at all illegal? What are they afraid of? The hypocrisy is epic.
It was pointed out in the video by the newscaster on site.
They don't want to be doxxed. I mean come on, this is common knowledge that you can do nothing illegal and yet still get fired.
Additionally, if you want to describe concealing your identity as admission of criminality I don't think you thought the point out yet but feel free to retract before you get buried in pictures of BLM and ANTIFA.
I got a notice that my ballot was at the post office and on its way to the county board of elections. Ballotrax is a convenient platform to track a ballot at each step. I remember getting notified in 2020, even when my ballot had been processed by the board of elections.
Voting absentee is so convenient. From requesting a ballot online, to filling it out at my leisure, instead of getting 2 witness signatures I instead use the option to have it notarized, which is a free service offered by my credit union nearby. I then sign, date, and drop it in the mail. And now I'm informed where my ballot is every step of the way.
What state is that? Arizona is doing signature matching off a DL. I once got a call from someone who was from the Republican party wanted to verify my envelope about 7 years ago. He asked me a few questions about my DOB, and last 4 SSN he was satisfied. The envelopes are the only thing that identifies the voter once the ballot and envelopes are separated no way to track the ballot back to the voter. This is because our state constitution requires ballots to be casted in secret like many states.
I agree vote by mail is the way to go been doing that since 2004 after standing in line behind some guy who kept coughing away spitting on the ground it was nasty that is when I looked into voting by mail never looked back.
I got a notice that my ballot was at the post office and on its way to the county board of elections. Ballotrax is a convenient platform to track a ballot at each step. I remember getting notified in 2020, even when my ballot had been processed by the board of elections.
Voting absentee is so convenient. From requesting a ballot online, to filling it out at my leisure, instead of getting 2 witness signatures I instead use the option to have it notarized, which is a free service offered by my credit union nearby. I then sign, date, and drop it in the mail. And now I'm informed where my ballot is every step of the way.
Great post. I entirely support this type of process.
The people dropping off their ballots also have the same concerns.
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