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Who in the hell do those people think they are? If I were Putin there's no way I would allow the people of Lugansk and Donetsk to be subject to the tender mercies of the current junta in Kiev. Even if the Russian government could prevent Russian citizens from supporting the rebels, I wouldn't do it. The Russians wouldn't go for this. Its just stupid.
Donbass rabels waits you! Come to Donetsk and fight!
Kievans took to the streets on January 1st 2017, to celebrate Stepan Bandera's birthday. On June 30, 1941 Bandera declared the formation of the Ukrainian State in Lviv. After the war, the Bandera group formed their Government in Exile, which was given quiet legitimacy by both the US and Canadian governments shortly after WW2. See declasified CIA documents by following this link: https://www.cia.gov/library/readingro...
During WW2, Babi Yar in Ukraine was the single most horrific act of the 'holocaust' at the time (with all due respect, I have holocaust in speech marks because it was not only those of Jewish origin who perished there) The atrocities at Babi Yar were left to the SS Nachtigall (codename for about 600 Ukrainians under Bandera's command.) The reason was simple - the brutal work of the genocide at this level made even hardened German SS uncomfortable. This fact is even obscured in the Holocaust Encyclopedia at the United States Holocaust Museum: https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article....
During the period September 1941, the first massacre at Babi Yar killed over 30,000 Jewish Ukrainians. Over the next few years, victims of the Roma Ukrainians (Gypsies) numbered almost 200,000. The group often left out of factual history were Russians and Ukrainians, communists and other nationalists, with estimates ranging as high as 300,000. Please note that Wikipedia mentions the 30,000 Jewish deaths, which is a gross underestimation of the total dead at the hands of the Banderavites and their SS heroes, at Babi Yar.
(In general, Wikipedia should be avoided when researhing history as it is highly policitised and tends to distrort the truth.)
What differentiates Fascist Germany from the Bandera Nationalists in Ukraine is that Germany has taken responsibility for the atrocities they committed. Contrast this to Ukraine, where surviving members of the WW2 Galician SS, willing participants in genocide, still proudly display medals given to them by the German Third Reich.
It's fair to say that US intelligence certainly was aware of which couldron to stir, in order to create the most division amongst the Ukrainian population after the government coup of 2014. The blue/yellow "Svoboda" Ultra-Nationalist Party flags that can be seen in the video recieve their funding from the American taxpayer.
Kievans took to the streets on January 1st 2017, to celebrate Stepan Bandera's birthday. On June 30, 1941 Bandera declared the formation of the Ukrainian State in Lviv. After the war, the Bandera group formed their Government in Exile, which was given quiet legitimacy by both the US and Canadian governments shortly after WW2. See declasified CIA documents by following this link: https://www.cia.gov/library/readingro...
During WW2, Babi Yar in Ukraine was the single most horrific act of the 'holocaust' at the time (with all due respect, I have holocaust in speech marks because it was not only those of Jewish origin who perished there) The atrocities at Babi Yar were left to the SS Nachtigall (codename for about 600 Ukrainians under Bandera's command.) The reason was simple - the brutal work of the genocide at this level made even hardened German SS uncomfortable. This fact is even obscured in the Holocaust Encyclopedia at the United States Holocaust Museum: https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article....
During the period September 1941, the first massacre at Babi Yar killed over 30,000 Jewish Ukrainians. Over the next few years, victims of the Roma Ukrainians (Gypsies) numbered almost 200,000. The group often left out of factual history were Russians and Ukrainians, communists and other nationalists, with estimates ranging as high as 300,000. Please note that Wikipedia mentions the 30,000 Jewish deaths, which is a gross underestimation of the total dead at the hands of the Banderavites and their SS heroes, at Babi Yar.
(In general, Wikipedia should be avoided when researhing history as it is highly policitised and tends to distrort the truth.)
What differentiates Fascist Germany from the Bandera Nationalists in Ukraine is that Germany has taken responsibility for the atrocities they committed. Contrast this to Ukraine, where surviving members of the WW2 Galician SS, willing participants in genocide, still proudly display medals given to them by the German Third Reich.
It's fair to say that US intelligence certainly was aware of which couldron to stir, in order to create the most division amongst the Ukrainian population after the government coup of 2014. The blue/yellow "Svoboda" Ultra-Nationalist Party flags that can be seen in the video recieve their funding from the American taxpayer.
A typical insane example of the anti historical Soviet/Russian lies aimed at the people too lazy to check wiki.. It is true that the Russians developed quite a conditioned reflex at the name "Bandera" but it has much more to do with imperial mental anguish than with specific actions of Ukrainian guerillas under Bandera.
It is 100% mental, a phenomenon of Banderophobia in the Russian consciousness.
RememberMee - what about the policies of Bandera in Volhynia resulted in 35,000–60,000 Polish deaths in Volhynia and 25,000–40,000 in Eastern Galicia, for the total of between 76,000 and 106,000 casualties ? If are not lazy and might wish to read more on Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massac...astern_Galicia
Volhynia refs the history of Poland, which citizens suffer from severe "Banderophobia"
RememberMee - what about the policies of Bandera in Volhynia resulted in 35,000–60,000 Polish deaths in Volhynia and 25,000–40,000 in Eastern Galicia, for the total of between 76,000 and 106,000 casualties ? If are not lazy and might wish to read more on Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massac...astern_Galicia
Volhynia refs the history of Poland, which citizens suffer from severe "Banderophobia"
What's about it?
That's a typical insane example))))
( I've noticed something today - the fact that this particular person has so many reps on this forum really concerns me)))
RememberMee - what about the policies of Bandera in Volhynia resulted in 35,000–60,000 Polish deaths in Volhynia and 25,000–40,000 in Eastern Galicia, for the total of between 76,000 and 106,000 casualties ? If are not lazy and might wish to read more on Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massac...astern_Galicia
Volhynia refs the history of Poland, which citizens suffer from severe "Banderophobia"
Bandera spent 1941-1944 in the German concentration camps he made no "policies" while being an inmate. As for the events in Volyn it is a complicated.story, I am surprised at wiki not even recognizing that complexity or giving estimates for Ukrainian victims, I wonder not about the authors though. Comrade, you better tell us about the millions of the deaths Russian national heroes and etnic cleansers have under their belts, it is many millions dead, a lot to tell. Demonization of Bandera, a minor in all regards European insurgents leader, by Soviet/Russian propaganda has everything to do with him being a symbol of Ukrainian struggle for self preservation and independence, a struggle of a nation torn by two maniacal regimes of Stalin and Hitler.
Last edited by RememberMee; 01-03-2017 at 02:17 PM..
What's about it?
That's a typical insane example))))
( I've noticed something today - the fact that this particular person has so many reps on this forum really concerns me)))
Typical one sided propaganda, you got it right. Russian Federation refuses to allow public access to NKVD/KGB archives, 80 years old archives threaten entire Russian mythology, I bet there is a lot of interesting info on NKVD anti guerilla actions in Western Ukraine. Seriously comrade Erasure, Russian history is soaked in blood and bestiality, a Russian nazi apologist like yourself scolding Bandera is about the same as a serial killer scolding a boy scout over a squashed fly.
Last edited by RememberMee; 01-03-2017 at 02:32 PM..
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