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Old 02-09-2017, 09:41 AM
 
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Divide-and Rule

Putin's Tough Choice: China or the West

I've always thought that dragging out the Syrian War by the US and the Iran nuclear deal may have been intended to get all the major oil producers bogged down in a war and forced to pump as much oil as they can produce. History seems to often repeat. Along the way, they might have to sell off part of the rights to national oil companies to foreign buyers from the US or Europe.
The realm of plausible is truly boundless, comrade. Looking in my crystal ball I see relativistic, irrelevant useful idiots on the NA left forever stuck in the conspirological swamp to be used by one maniacal regime or another on a rare occasion. In the past years what passes for the left exposed its relativism, moral and intellectual retardation to have any hope for relevance in the foreseable future, you guys are just like an old prostitute looking for a paying client.
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Old 02-09-2017, 09:51 AM
 
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The realm of plausible is truly boundless, comrade. Looking in my crystal ball I see relativistic, irrelevant useful idiots on the NA left forever stuck in the conspirological swamp to be used by one maniacal regime or another on a rare occasion. In the past years what passes for the left exposed its relativism, moral and intellectual retardation to have any hope for relevance in the foreseable future, you guys are just like an old prostitute looking for a paying client.
You have to be old enough to remember the proxy wars in the Middle East in the 1980's. Iran and Iraq were engaged in war much of the decade. Many of the oil producers were providing funding to Iraq. Also, the US sold Kuwait the slant drilling equipment to extract oil from the Iraqi side of the border which led to the 1990 invasion of Kuwait and the subsequent war against Iraq.

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Old 02-09-2017, 10:05 AM
 
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You have to be old enough to remember the proxy wars in the Middle East in the 1980's. Iran and Iraq were engaged in war much of the decade. Many of the oil producers were providing funding to Iraq. Also, the US sold Kuwait the slant drilling equipment to extract oil from the Iraqi side of the border which led to the 1990 invasion of Kuwait and the subsequent war against Iraq.
Yup, ingenious scheme to drive oil prices and American oil industry down right at the time Trump excited proletarian masses with a promise to frack everything in sight. Conspirology fails because it treats all but one player as passive dummies devoid of independent self-interest, drive and ability. Arab regimes and der Putin himself have immidiate concerns like feeding the masses and mushrooming security apparatus (without shrinking private loot), it takes oil, a lot of oil, right now, there is no time for grandiose chess calculations, even price fixing and production quotas are luxuries neither regime can afford, so they dont even try.
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Old 02-09-2017, 12:28 PM
 
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South Front.


The Kiev Junta is trying to get attention. They've been out of the news these last few months and the new US administration is basically more concerned with other things. Porkochunko and his fellow loonies think that by making a ruckus it will get the attention of their new masters. I heard McCain was involved and was making "suggestions".

So far the Ukr army (?) and the militias have been trying to push forward but due to the DNRs dug in positions and heavily mined approaches its come at a very high price.
Kyiv Junta is vying for the western attention by means of the Russia backed colloborants unleashing trainloads of ammunition WWI style onto civil urban targets under Ukrainian control while using civil structures as a cover for artillery and grad missiles on the other end. The devious master plan is getting way too involved for Junta, I smell Rothschild puppeteers and trilateral commission cooking. Keep in mind the escallation happened the very next day Trump had a chat with Putin. I guess der Fuhrer tries some old fashioned street thug tricks on the Master of reality deal.
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Old 02-09-2017, 05:11 PM
 
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Kyiv Junta is vying for the western attention by means of the Russia backed colloborants unleashing trainloads of ammunition WWI style onto civil urban targets under Ukrainian control while using civil structures as a cover for artillery and grad missiles on the other end. The devious master plan is getting way too involved for Junta, I smell Rothschild puppeteers and trilateral commission cooking. Keep in mind the escallation happened the very next day Trump had a chat with Putin. I guess der Fuhrer tries some old fashioned street thug tricks on the Master of reality deal.
Did you know I'm the most gorgeous guy on earth?

It's all about what you convince yourself of.

You have been schooled, you may go.
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Old 02-10-2017, 11:00 AM
 
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Summarizes everything re: Ukraine.

ROCK SOLID POLITICS: Russia's duty in Eastern Ukraine

He also has an interesting article on Russian systems' role in foiling the attempted coup in Turkey

ROCK SOLID POLITICS: The Russian Ace - Khibiny
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Old 02-10-2017, 12:51 PM
 
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1028 pages of talking about future of the "european zimbabwe", great!
In reality they (and Russia as well) will always have the african level of development, because their mentality will never change
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Old 02-10-2017, 04:56 PM
 
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1028 pages of talking about future of the "european zimbabwe", great!
In reality they (and Russia as well) will always have the african level of development, because their mentality will never change
Right.
Europe already has enough of the second sort "Europeans," such as all these Cechz, Slovaks, Poles, Romanians - you name it)))
Brits are already running from this Zoo)))
But yeah, you explain it yourself to your Ukrainian friends here, since they consider themselves to be "true Europeans"))))
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Old 02-10-2017, 05:48 PM
 
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Right.
Europe already has enough of the second sort "Europeans," such as all these Cechz, Slovaks, Poles, Romanians - you name it)))
Brits are already running from this Zoo)))
But yeah, you explain it yourself to your Ukrainian friends here, since they consider themselves to be "true Europeans"))))
Even if we would be the second sort, they have no european mentality at all, there always will be big difference in our culture.
And don't put Czech Republic and Romania in one row, we are one of the most developed countries among former "socialist bloc".
In any case I have very big doubt that Russia or Ukraine will reach our level of development in nearest 20 years.
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Old 02-10-2017, 06:09 PM
 
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Even if we would be the second sort, they have no european mentality at all, there always will be big difference in our culture.
And don't put Czech Republic and Romania in one row,
Right, right, mybadhowcouldI)))))

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we are one of the most developed countries among former "socialist bloc".
In any case I have very big doubt that Russia or Ukraine will reach our level of development in nearest 20 years.
Right again.
It's one thing for Germans to purchase Czechoslovakia and *arrange it* the right, the German way, and it's another to purchase Ukraine. I can't fathom the effort and labor that would go into managing this current Zoo; Germans are people too you know))))
And "Russia proper" is out of question all together - it's unmanageable by anyone or anything, period.
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