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Interesting, that it had been discussed in advance, but the advice was ignored. Now, with new, even more austere, censorship laws in place as of this week, the same people respond to reporters that they cannot give their opinion without running afoul of the law.
To be fair there will always be war dissenters and hawks. Leaders at least the good ones typically surround themselves with people of varying opinions to get the whole perspective. It's the same with business. It's up to the individual to make the decision at the end of the day. So saying someone told you not to do it, isn’t saying much.
Also, I wouldn't make too much into the NY Times. As I stated plenty times on this forum, U.S. and European news sources can't be trusted. They run blatant articles based upon lies, or exaggerations. They are protected to some degree from fact checking, by just saying a foreign source told them so. For true perspective seek news outlets in other nations that don't have a stake in the fight. Best way to avoid misinformation.
Also, I wouldn't make too much into the NY Times. As I stated plenty times on this forum, U.S. and European news sources can't be trusted. They run blatant articles based upon lies, or exaggerations. They are protected to some degree from fact checking, by just saying a foreign source told them so. For true perspective seek news outlets in other nations that don't have a stake in the fight. Best way to avoid misinformation.
An interesting article:
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Four days later, the Washington, DC, medical examiner revealed that Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick had not been murdered by rampaging Trump supporters during the Jan. 6 Capitol Hill riot, as reports had claimed, but had died of natural causes.
Both stories were based on anonymous, unidentifiable sources, but had become deeply enmeshed in the public consciousness. Both confirmed the assumptions of the nation’s left-leaning media and academic elite, while damaging their political enemies.
And both were driven by The New York Times, where malicious misreporting has been the practice for a century, argues journalist and media commentator Ashley Rindsberg.
“My research churned up not mere errors or inaccuracies but whole-cloth falsehoods,” Rindsberg writes in “The Gray Lady Winked” (Midnight Oil), out now, which examines how the nation’s premier media outlet manipulates what we think is the news.
The “fabrications and distortions” he found in the Times’ coverage of major stories from Hitler’s Germany and Stalin’s Russia to Vietnam and the Iraq War “were never the product of simple error,” Rindsberg contends.
“Rather, they were the byproduct of a particular kind of system, a truth-producing machine” constructed to twist facts into a pattern of the Times’ own choosing, he says.
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“And with the Times, it’s never just one false claim,” he said. “They make a concerted effort over time that they dig into and won’t let go.”
The paper’s coverage of Adolf Hitler’s Germany in the decade before World War II is an early example of its narrative manipulation, Rindsberg writes.
So glowing was its picture of the regime that the Nazis regularly included New York Times reports in their own radio programs.
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“When a symbol fits their narrative, they just cannot let it go.”
Similar hallmarks can be seen in the Russian bounties story, which the Times launched on June 26, 2020, Rindsberg said.
“What they were reporting on was an intelligence assessment,” Rindsberg said, a government account that by its very nature is ambiguous and incomplete.
The assessment alleged that a Russian intelligence unit had offered bounties to Taliban-linked militias for killing American and other coalition troops in Afghanistan. But it included no corroborating details on who if anyone had been paid, how much was offered, or even the source of the disclosure.
Nonetheless, “the Times coverage quickly became conclusive,” Rindsberg said. Its initial story was framed in the most absolute of terms, claiming that “American intelligence officials have concluded” that bounties were offered — and that Trump had refused to take action on the information.
“It was circular logic: We know that Trump is colluding with the Russians, therefore he doesn’t do anything about the bounties,” Rindsberg said. “And why doesn’t Trump do anything about the bounties? Because we know he’s colluding with the Russians.”
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After at least 30 Times stories and columns linked Brian Sicknick’s death to the actions of the Jan. 6 rioters, news that the medical examiner had punctured the narrative ran on page A12.
“Because they’re protecting the thing that is most valuable to them, their reputation,” Rindsberg said. “And doing it at the expense of the truth.”
I don't think so. But I may have misspoke, maybe it's not on the NATO agenda, and is on the G7, or The European Council (as distinct from the Council of Europe) agenda.
If the money gets spent to rebuild Ukraine I can see the issue being tied up in the courts for years, as Russia tries to recover some or all. Apparently oligarchs have legal rights also.
Odessa is another city with very small russian minority so I see no basis for russia to claim it?? Even more interestingly for me people from my country are the 3rd biggest minority there after Ukrainians and then Russians. All in all it's very ukrainian.
Zelenski is the new Trump, he says it like it is except unlike Trump he is never funny despite his attempts - while Trump was always funny even without trying:
On that note, France is the most anti-european country on the continent, their goal has been to bring in as many black african muslims as possible, even Macron said it years ago that he prefers them over "Ukrainian channel smugglers" whatever that means.
Zelenski is a puppet who says and does what he's told so he's far more like Obama or Biden than Trump. Putin may be more like Trump in that he seems to not care who he offends and says what he thinks, but there's no bluster there. Then again, I'm still heavily leaning towards the opinion Putin is playing a part in this farce and both sides are in collusion. He's been friendly with our deep state fr too long even if it was always to serve his own ends. That's why I refuse to take it seriously and want no part of it. It could very well be all an act meant to drive our country even further down the depths of insolvency. First Covid, now war. Inflation, recession, pandemic, genocide, its madness and we need to stop following our leaders and start putting them in straight jackets and institutions.
Zelenski is a puppet who says and does what he's told so he's far more like Obama or Biden than Trump. Putin may be more like Trump in that he seems to not care who he offends and says what he thinks, but there's no bluster there. Then again, I'm still heavily leaning towards the opinion Putin is playing a part in this farce and both sides are in collusion. He's been friendly with our deep state fr too long even if it was always to serve his own ends. That's why I refuse to take it seriously and want no part of it. It could very well be all an act meant to drive our country even further down the depths of insolvency. First Covid, now war. Inflation, recession, pandemic, genocide, its madness and we need to stop following our leaders and start putting them in straight jackets and institutions.
Maga? It is one big conspiracy to make you pay more for gas, everybody is in it, only you have no script to play. Keep unraveling that conspiracy from comfort of your basement research station, but watch your back for the globalist operatives, a truth teller like yourself is a target. Trump forever. Over.
It is? How do you propose the rebuilding of Ukraine is financed?
The same way the Western support for Ukraine is currently financed? Western taxpayer money. How was the Marshal Plan financed? Not by robbing artworks or other treasures from Germany and other Axis nations.
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