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Old 04-05-2018, 01:26 PM
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The solution has been the same since the thread opened, Russia needs to get out. 1200 pages of Russians attacking the idea of an independent Ukraine, and it hasn't resolved to their satisfaction because it won't.
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Old 04-05-2018, 02:30 PM
 
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The solution has been the same since the thread opened, Russia needs to get out. 1200 pages of Russians attacking the idea of an independent Ukraine, and it hasn't resolved to their satisfaction because it won't.
Simply forgot to specify that "new Ukraine" it doesn't depend on mind and common sense
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Old 04-05-2018, 02:53 PM
 
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A piece on Azov Battalion. These are the people that killed the protestors in Mariupol. They're now a part of the Ukrainian Ministry Of The Interior.

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=a71Od_1522951185

The Ukraine trainwreck is still ongoing.
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Old 04-05-2018, 02:58 PM
 
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The solution has been the same since the thread opened, Russia needs to get out. 1200 pages of Russians attacking the idea of an independent Ukraine, and it hasn't resolved to their satisfaction because it won't.
Independent Ukraine? Who's government is surviving on loans from the US? If Ukraine isn't obedient then the loans don't show up now do they? How's that independent?

Making your country a colony of another is not independence.

The mental gymnastics you're capable of are worthy of an Olympic gold medal.
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Old 04-05-2018, 03:08 PM
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The people who killed citizens of Mariupol were Russians using grad missiles:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg4ipVxKSnA
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Old 04-05-2018, 03:14 PM
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Independent Ukraine? Who's government is surviving on loans from the US? If Ukraine isn't obedient then the loans don't show up now do they? How's that independent?

Making your country a colony of another is not independence.

The mental gymnastics you're capable of are worthy of an Olympic gold medal.
The US has loaned Ukraine 1 billion a year since 2014. Ukraine's annual budget is about 37 billion. It seems they would survive if they had to borrow this on the market, just pay a higher interest rate. Ukraine actually had a budget surplus in 2017 so its hard to say who's independence is at stake, but perhaps in your world it is the recipient of cheap loans.
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Old 04-05-2018, 05:00 PM
 
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The people who killed citizens of Mariupol were Russians using grad missiles:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg4ipVxKSnA
Correct yourself. Those were DNR artillerists that flunked orienteering class. DNR admitted it.

This is fascists/Ukropeans shelling Lugansk and killing civilians.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K5sekOUwywQ
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Old 04-05-2018, 06:13 PM
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Nope, they are simply attacking illegally armed groups hiding in civilian areas. When DNR returns control of territory to the legitimate government of Ukraine, this all ends.
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Old 04-06-2018, 11:52 AM
 
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Any country can do that, its called printing money. Zimbabwe and Venezuela...
.....comparing Zimbabwe to Venezuela is as asinine as comparing Russia to Venezuela.....Venezuela is at least a natural resource rich country, Zimbabwe is a landlocked country that does not literally produce anything since the collapse of its agriculture sector.....I would say that Venezuela, if well managed, would have a better future than Ukraine....
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Old 04-06-2018, 11:23 PM
 
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Nope, they are simply attacking illegally armed groups hiding in civilian areas. When DNR returns control of territory to the legitimate government of Ukraine, this all ends.
There is no "legitimate government of Ukraine" - there are only American puppets.
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