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Old 03-15-2022, 04:21 PM
 
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Quit spamming, just google the "ATO" pls. - you might actually learn something.
The mad Kremlin rat inundated Donbas with Russian nazis from Russia and Russian troops in 2014, just because some local traitors joined Russian nazi forces it does not make it a "civil war". Russia has used Donbas as a dumping ground for its nazis, thugs and the rest of human waste that turned Donbas in the grey area where crime, terror and torture runs supreme. ATO was a very fitting name, just look at the famous thugs Russia propped in Donbas. Repeating the same Russian nazi bs ad nauseum works only on the Russians and some maga types, you really have no other tricks up your sleeve.

Donbas thuggery had more tanks and heavy weapons than most NATO nations. And those weapons were firing at Ukrainian forces for all these 8 years. Yet, the number of civilian deaths in Donbass was around 10 in 2020 and 2021. Russian nazis kill 10 civilians every hour or less in 2022. Russian nazis are all around despicable as that rabid Kremlin rat they worship and obey.
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Old 03-16-2022, 03:51 PM
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Postcards from Ukraine... RIP 1991-2013 especially, 2014-2021 even, up to February/March 2022:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Uk...3!4d31.1655799

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Uk...3!4d31.1655799
*See on the right side the first two images, and click on the side arrow once for full site resolution on screen

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...0%BA%D0%B0.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...0%BF%D0%BE.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...1%82%D0%BE.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...irca_1920s.JPG

https://www.gpsmycity.com/img/gd_sight/38402.jpg

https://deih43ym53wif.cloudfront.net...96b60addc.jpeg

https://static.timesofisrael.com/www...1029153827.jpg

https://previews.123rf.com/images/vd...ee-bedeckt.jpg

https://www.redfedoradiary.com/wp-co.../12/Lviv-4.jpg

https://content.r9cdn.net/rimg/dimg/...611&yhint=1772

Hopefully, the conflict ends early enough to save what is remaining in Ukraine. One of the most underrated, affordable, and most massive countries in Europe. With up to 7 Ukrainian cities above 600,000 peoples (Kyiv, Odessa, Lviv, Kharkiv, Dnipro, Zaporizhzhia, Kryvyi Rih) minus Donetsk the 8th one. One of them close to 3 million, 1 between one to two million, and three of the eight 1,000,000 approximate. And the scenery is redeeming enough in consistency, even if Soviet industrial when going further East Southeast in the country with the sole exception of the old Crimea.

Three decades of solid brilliance. Long live support glory to Ukraine. The problems is less than one month only three weeks up to now, so never a victim long term. God bless Ukraine! The Ukrainian peoples are blessed with such stable lives a vast majority of your own existence on this World. Please, don't feel like a war torn victim that much...

The news media, even the "Western" ones, stop signaling too much bombed up sites of Ukraine. At least occasionally. Remember, to have up the scenic pictures icons that is tourist friendly when Ukraine has the peace. To really remember how beautiful Ukraine is 1991-2021. And again in the not that far away distant future.

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Old 03-16-2022, 08:34 PM
 
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City of Volnovakha couple of days ago.

The look of it should give a better idea what's going on on the "Eastern front," while the Western media concentrates all its attention on Kiev.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQKJHmoqmvM


By the sound ( and look of it) THESE people ( the inhabitants of Volnovakha) are happy to see Ukrainian government gone from their territory.

They lived under the terror of yet another Nationalist Battalion "Donbass," and together with the 53rd brigade of Ukrainian forces the inhabitants are saying they were simply spraying all houses with bullets right and left before DNR troops even showed up on the horizon.



So yes, these people look happy to see Ukraine gone.

But I don't see Russian soldiers there; may be they already left; I see the locals already taking charge.

The takeover of Volnovakha signifies a big victory for the LDNR troops, since this particular city is an utmost important strategic point for the future advances of both Russian and LDNR armies.
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Old 03-16-2022, 09:32 PM
 
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Meanwhile = "Berdyansk is Ukraine"

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/com..._occupied_and/
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Old 03-16-2022, 10:12 PM
 
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I just checked on Berdyansk, and oh my god...


This is like "back to the USSR"



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9SEa0HfdB4


Overall the more I am watching now the parts of Ukraine where the Russians took over, the more shock I get.

I thought that anything beyond Donbass it's already something non-familiar, "Ukrainian" and kinda different.

I've got this impression while listening to Ukrainian TV channels, the idiotic Ukrainian nationalists, but now that I actually SEE it...
The country-side of the "Ukrainian" East - it's Russia through and through, and not just today's Russia, but Russia of the Soviet times.

Oh my....


This is, for example, not Donbass...
This is KHARKOV region -



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU19r23KEHI



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dxq3dqjFUE


If Russians are there to stay ( and by the look of it it's their plan - the "invisible presence,") then... well..
this part of "Ukraine" will become "Russia" with no particular effort.

But now I can see too kinda why Kremlin was not in a hurry to take over "Ukraine" earlier.

It WILL cost pretty penny to bring this "country" up to speed.

Kiev seems to be just a "show case" of "great changes," may be couple of other places too, but overall.. but the South East ...

I think the war is lost by the West just for these simple reasons.
What I see here is not some mythical "Ukraine."


It's Russia - the Southern part of it.
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Old 03-17-2022, 12:01 AM
 
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Future of Ukraine looks brighter each day.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/u...smid=url-share

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Pentagon officials say that a high, and rising, number of war dead can destroy the will to continue fighting. The result, they say, has shown up in intelligence reports that senior officials in the Biden administration read every day: One recent report focused on low morale among Russian troops and described soldiers just parking their vehicles and walking off into the woods.
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The high rate of casualties goes far to explain why Russia’s much-vaunted force has remained largely stalled outside of Kyiv, Ukraine’s capital.

“Losses like this affect morale and unit cohesion, especially since these soldiers don’t understand why they’re fighting,†said Evelyn Farkas, the top Pentagon official for Russia and Ukraine during the Obama administration. “Your overall situational awareness decreases. Someone’s got to drive, someone’s got to shoot.â€
Meanwhile, things back home in mother Russia are unraveling:

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Signs of Russia’s challenges abound. Late last week, Russian news sources reported that Mr. Putin had put two of his top intelligence officials under house arrest. The officials, who run the Fifth Service of Russia’s main intelligence service, the FSB, were interrogated for providing poor intelligence ahead of the invasion, according to Andrei Soldatov, a Russian security services expert.
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Two American military officials said that many Russian generals are talking on unsecured phones and radios. In at least one instance, they said, the Ukrainians intercepted a general’s call, geolocated it, and attacked his location, killing him and his staff.
Which brings me to this interesting intercepted conversation (with subtitles) of a Russian soldier calling his wife back home:

https://www.veed.io/view/5867c8b3-ad...b-c687bf4062fa
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Old 03-17-2022, 06:03 PM
 
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I just checked on Berdyansk, and oh my god...


This is like "back to the USSR"



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9SEa0HfdB4


This is, for example, not Donbass...
This is KHARKOV region -



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU19r23KEHI



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dxq3dqjFUE

It's Russia - the Southern part of it.
Seems like you have a hard hate to dismiss Ukraine as a toilet country? Did you not think that the outskirts of Ukraine is not poor, slimilar to outskirts in Russia? Did you not know that Ukraine is a poor country overall?

And these videos are by Oplot TV channel. They are propaganda tv stations from the Donetsk separatest area. There are videos staging so called Ukrainians receiving food from Russian trucks by Russian solders and thanking them for their kindness. While security videos all over Ukraine show Russian solders breaking into Ukraine shops and stealing food an money from cash registers.

If you look hard enough, you will find something on the internet to suit you feelings and position. Doesn't mean you are finding truthfull information.
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Old 03-17-2022, 09:00 PM
 
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Seems like you have a hard hate to dismiss Ukraine as a toilet country?
What?

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Did you not think that the outskirts of Ukraine is not poor, slimilar to outskirts in Russia? Did you not know that Ukraine is a poor country overall?
It's one thing to hear that Ukraine is a "poor country," but it's another thing to see a flashback from my early childhood, looking at this video of Berdyansk. Very reminiscent of what my old part of town looked like back then.


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And these videos are by Oplot TV channel. They are propaganda tv stations from the Donetsk separatest area.
What makes you think I can't figure out what "Oplot" is all about and where it comes from?

And why THEIR propaganda is any better or worse than propaganda coming from Kiev all these last years?

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There are videos staging so called Ukrainians receiving food from Russian trucks by Russian solders and thanking them for their kindness.
So they are "so-called Ukrainians" because they are desperate and take food from Russian trucks?
What so-called "Ukrainian government" offered them instead?



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While security videos all over Ukraine show Russian solders breaking into Ukraine shops and stealing food an money from cash registers.
A fair trade I'd say.

They steal some food - their government provides food in bulk for Ukraine too. Free of charge, as humanitarian help.

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If you look hard enough, you will find something on the internet to suit you feelings and position. Doesn't mean you are finding truthfull information.
And what is "truthful information?"
The kind that Kiev and only Kiev provides?

Grow up already.

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Old 03-18-2022, 04:42 AM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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What?

It's one thing to hear that Ukraine is a "poor country," but it's another thing to see a flashback from my early childhood, looking at this video of Berdyansk. Very reminiscent of what my old part of town looked like back then.


What makes you think I can't figure out what "Oplot" is all about and where it comes from?

And why THEIR propaganda is any better or worse than propaganda coming from Kiev all these last years?

So they are "so-called Ukrainians" because they are desperate and take food from Russian trucks?
What so-called "Ukrainian government" offered them instead?



A fair trade I'd say.

They steal some food - their government provides food in bulk for Ukraine too. Free of charge, as humanitarian help.

And what is "truthful information?"

The kind that Kiev and only Kiev provides?

Grow up already.
Like the Kremlin, certainly you call into question what is real with your constant spin, distortion and outright lies. The Russians aren't providing "humanitarian help" - in fact, they have laid siege to Mariupol and Kharkiv and they've been trying to do that to Kyiv, but they haven't completely encircled it (yet). They don't allow food, medicine or water in to Mariupol and Kharkiv, and they have tried to (and succeeded in) destroying municipal water facilities.
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Old 03-18-2022, 05:09 AM
 
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Like the Kremlin, certainly you call into question what is real with your constant spin, distortion and outright lies. The Russians aren't providing "humanitarian help" - in fact, they have laid siege to Mariupol and Kharkiv and they've been trying to do that to Kyiv, but they haven't completely encircled it (yet). They don't allow food, medicine or water in to Mariupol and Kharkiv, and they have tried to (and succeeded in) destroying municipal water facilities.
She knows exactly what the truth is - but she has to justify all the atrocities committed by the Russians to assuage her sense of superiority.

She's justified and explained away the looting the Russians commit in this recent post. In another thread, she justified and rationalized why Russian Nazis are not bad, just the Ukrainian ones. In fact, she claims, because there is a law in Russia against being a Nazi, therefore there are no Nazis! Because we all know how lawful Russia is, and how law abiding its citizenry are!

*insert cheeky and irreverent LOL gif here*
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