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Old 12-25-2014, 10:04 AM
 
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I have no words.

Ukrainian minister proposes placing strategic factories under US control | Ukraina.ru
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Old 12-25-2014, 10:43 AM
 
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Well, the gloves are off, no more pretenses. Pretenses of "freedom," "independence" and all those slogans they liked so much to use on Maidan))))
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Old 12-26-2014, 03:03 AM
 
Location: Russia
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"According to him, only 1,120 out of 3,374 Ukrainian state-owned enterprises actually operate, and even the so called top 100 bring losses of billions of dollars, not profit. Instead of revitalizing production, the minister suggests bringing the enterprises under US control."


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Pies, pies more!
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Old 12-26-2014, 03:40 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Kiev may sell Donbas and/or Crimea to USA. As Russia sold Alaska.
Or just Mariupol. (to be renamed Marinespool...)
Or just a still uninhabited small coastal area, where the Americans can build
a combined Marine/Air base.
And spying. We know, the Americans enjoy to spy.
They could surveille who violates the cease fire, what vehicles
cross the borders, who developes WMDs, who insults Bush,
what diseases and lovers the leaders have, what birdflu viruses are
there and such.
As with the pigbay in Cuba.
It all just only depends on how much they pay ... Kiev needs money.

All only in accordance with the Budapest Treaty, of course.
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Old 12-26-2014, 04:24 AM
 
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Originally Posted by gsgsgs View Post
Kiev may sell Donbas and/or Crimea to USA. As Russia sold Alaska.
Or just Mariupol. (to be renamed Marinespool...)
Or just a still uninhabited small coastal area, where the Americans can build
a combined Marine/Air base.
And spying. We know, the Americans enjoy to spy.
They could surveille who violates the cease fire, what vehicles
cross the borders, who developes WMDs, who insults Bush,
what diseases and lovers the leaders have, what birdflu viruses are
there and such.
As with the pigbay in Cuba.
It all just only depends on how much they pay ... Kiev needs money.

All only in accordance with the Budapest Treaty, of course.
It will be a tricky move! The population also sell? US needs more slaves?
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Old 12-26-2014, 05:43 PM
 
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Here is someone from the Ukraine? Turning off street lights due to a lack of money - is it true?
Hi, Maksim!
In Kiev turning off lights in houses for 1-2 hours in some districts. In many Kiev region(villages) turning off lights everyday for 3 hours..
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Old 12-26-2014, 06:11 PM
 
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Well if you ask me it looks like both 'houses' here need the big bucks. Unofirtunately, Putin's watching the Rossiyan retirement package ebbing away...right now it's like an icicle melting. I hope he does nothing rash considering. We know what happens when some people get real real mad. When you're in the casino luck sure can fake you out! Ukraine looks to me to go the pros!
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Old 12-26-2014, 08:49 PM
 
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Ukraine looks to me to go the pros!
Pros? I don't think the Ukrainian people are even going to register for these pros. Look into the American and British empires and look at what happened in India, Mexico, Philippines. There'll be some Ukrainians that will benefit immensely but the vast majority certainly will not. Those pros are going to want profit and they'll take it out of the hide of your average Ukrainian.

People who have lived on land for generations will be forced off it by the likes of Monsanto and Cargill, Shell. Water rights long established will be thrown out as will the rights of domain. The powerful people there now will ensure their interests are protected at any cost, even the impoverishment of the general population. Education, medicine, child care social services will all be neglected.

Ukrainians will essentially once again be serfs and slaves.
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Old 12-26-2014, 11:48 PM
 
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A declaration, written by Russian White emigration ( former Russian aristocracy) living in European countries.


« SOLIDAIRES DE LA RUSSIE » - [Russky Most]

For nearly a year , the Ukrainian events challenge each of us, descendants of white emigration , especially since our origins give us access to diverse information, unlike the majority of the people around us. Knowledge of the near past, that of Russia before 1917 , gives us the opportunity and the duty to denounce patent historical falsifications that led to the current tragedy in Ukraine.
Faced with the increasing tensions in the Donbass and in international relations brings one conclusion : the aggressive hostility deployed today against Russia is void of rationality.The policy of double standards exceeds all boundaries. Russia is accused of all crimes, without evidence, guilty a priori , while other countries have no particular repercussions, in particular when it comes to violation of human rights.
We do not give up the the defense of the values ​​that we were raised on by our families, forced into exile after the 1917 revolution. We don't refuse of the denunciation of the crimes of the Bolsheviks and their successors, we are still promoting the historical truth about those terrible years . But that doesn't mean that we are going to accept the slander directed at today's Russia, its leaders and its president, sanctioned and vilified against all common sense. This self-destructive process for European countries provides a strong argument to those, who see a Western desire to thwart the development of Russia , rather than solve the Ukrainian crisis. The attacks on everything that's connected with the notion of the concept of the "Russian world " are particularly pitiful, because Russian world is a historical reality, in geographical, linguistical, cultural and spiritual sense of this word. This is a civilization that enriched the world and we are proud of it.
We can not tolerate the shameful silence of official media silence and European countries on the terrible bombing of population and civilian infrastructure by the Ukrainian army in the Donbass , supported by militias wearing a Nazi symbolism. This silence enables Kiev's authorities , it gives them a pass for killing and destruction. For months , children and old people die or are seriously wounded, prisoners are tortured . Now the Kiev government declared a full blockade (gas, electricity , trains, governments and hospitals, pensions, salaries, medication ... ) in order to completely destroy a region which Kiev nevertheless proclaims it is an integral part of its territory . And how can we not denounce the violence committed by supporters of Kiev against the Russian Orthodox Church in Ukraine - threatened priests , forced to flee or being killed , fifty bombed churches (twenty completely destroyed ) , the persecution of believers. Where are the European values ​​in all this?
Despite their total rejection of the Soviet Union , our parents and grandparents were upset by the suffering of the Russian people during the Second World War. In our turn , we are not going to remain indifferent and silent in the face of the planned extermination of populations of Donbass , delusional Russophobia, and hypocrisy that go against Europe that's dear to us. contrary to the interests processes of a Europe that is dear to us . We want to hope that countries that have welcomed our families will find again the path of reason and objectivity."
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Old 12-27-2014, 02:00 AM
 
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history doesn't apply.
Things are fundamentally very different now.

With nukes,cars,airplanes,rockets,TV,internet,
UNO,WHO,WTO,
Credit Default Swaps,EU,terrorism,increased life-expectancy,
potential bioterrorism,global warming,expected world population peak in 2050 ...


no generation in human history ever saw such big changes as we did
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