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Ariete, you are Finnish? Nice. Do you see a lot of Russians going to Finland to their winter homes and ski? Yes?
Then is it not ironic how Russians is so patriotic, but they go to Finland for winter and Turkey/Greece/Cyprus for summer? If they so patriot, why they don't go to Crimea (this is how you spell it?) or Sochi? I am not russophobic, because I can not be one, but I can not support Russia either as a government.
Thank you, TheDentist, but while Russia economy will not go all way down, it will not go up either I think. People think regime is good not by how they feel it, but by how they are told on TV, media and newspaper. You cannot measure goodness of regime by if country went down or not, but if it go better. Russia did not go better after 2008 the economic crisis. At least some media, like Echo Moscow, still is working, by the way. Evidence there is actual. Meanwile, Channel 1 (pervyi kanal) show a "Ukraine plane" in the MH-17 crash from a "satelit", but then it ends up the whole country was shown a fake foto which was photoshop. At least they could have lied better )))))
What hurt me most is when US people say how Russia and regime is good and awesome but is not in mi opinion. I hate it since they dont understand living in Russia. It is like say "we understand African poverty and hunger" because we read about it and give it food. Without live through it or hear from relatives about it and from many many middle class friends you never find out the "reality"
Who says you, that we are don't go to Crimea?) We go there, both went before)) And we go to Sochi, there is now a great playground for skiers, remained after the Olympics, our Olympic venues, by the way, is not abandoned, as predrelalo all Western "progressive" community, they are all crammed under orders eyeballs. We go to the Urals to Lake Baikal, we have Kamchatka, Vladivostok. All these destinations) And as we go to Turkey and Dubai and Cuba and many more where, and all because a lot of us and we all can not afford)) And about the sit in the Crimea and and patriotism, well you patriots too, then what you can not sit in their Europe? Why in Russia go? And not only in Russia, in the same Egypt wishing to come a lot. So do not Retrieve your lost, where we want to go there, and we will. Because most countries poboku on your desires and they will support Russia no matter what, because we profitable, proven and reliable partner
And what about the satellite images, it is very Poho pictures on editing as a person develops satellites and he has seen pictures from satellites can assure you that they are very close to the truth, even more so, for the integrity of the photo, I'm sure that the overall picture is precisely corresponds to a photo from the satellite. This is easily verified by comparing with Google MAPS. Google MAPS usually fragmented. Holistic same photo - no) And besides, the plane flogged on Russian radio channel at the time of the disaster too fake?)) I doubt very much. What black boxes have not yet been deciphered in London (oh, this is an interested party, how did it happen then? ) is too fake?)) Or just in London so stupid specialists that are not able to a few months to do the work, which in the worst case, will take 2 days?)) Here a lie And anyway anyway London lies a picture is likely true) And by the way, the locals also said that they saw the second plane ) And nothing would then shoot down, if not a fighter
And even more so than the more real pictures combines the fields of Ukraine, which US hearth presented for Russian grads
Yes, I know that all Russians aren't the same, and I have no problems with Russians in Finland either. If you want to bring money here, I greet you with open arms, and so do almost all Finns. It just pisses me off when these Amoks and other Putin-bots spam internet forums and talk rubbish.
I don't say that Russian patriotism means that you can't travel abroad and so forth not being patriotic, but the whole mindset is just different, as certain nationalities have a culture that critisising their own country is unpatriotic. Like Russia, or Turkey. If I meet a French person, we will probably after a while start talking about how crap our countries are, though we both might be very patriotic. (As I am.)
Crimea yes in English.
Oh, that's so cute when people do not agree with your opinion that just called bots , even if they provide proof of your erroneous opinion) I am your sympathy, but I can not help) I never enter in that group of people who abuse Russia, did not really understand what was happening, because I have my head on his shoulders)
I am not talking about these goods, Erasure, like a pineapples and everything. I am talking that TV disappear from shelves. Teechnology store is empty. The milk products are going down in number even though recently (2 year ago) I see all my products. This is St Petersburg and I can see with my eyes this, I guess the small town is worse. What has gotten better I ask? You can "survive" in every country even Nort Korea. But I dont see too big progress of life quality even though Russia have big potential.
I was not serious about pineapples. And it's the other way around actually - I do live in the US precisely because I do understand too well what's going on in Russia and I wouldn't want to live there.
However whatever is going on there was quite predictable for me long time ago already. But unlike a lot of people from the "Echo Moskvy" who see the nineties as the period of "Russia's revival" I consider this time to be the most detrimental and destructive for the country's future. Whatever came after, came as the direct result of it ( Putin including,) yet they refuse to see it and to acknowledge it. And that's the big difference between me and them.
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I dont say America is good and EU is good. Their politic system is bad and funny, but honestly i have not find anything better than that. And this Russia cannot be better. France don't attack Wallonia because France respect other country rights and border and has value of life of people. To begin with - it's the French government
I don't see anything in the history of Wallonia that would have given the French any desire to "attack" it.
Wallonia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
But that's beyond the point, because I do agree that there is a big difference between French government and new Kiev's government. Yes, I've said Kiev's government, not the Russian one. Because that's where the problem begins. You don't start your "democratic changes" with outlawing a language in a bilingual country. You don't rely on bunch of thugs with questionable symbolics and ideas, pretending that they'll fade away somehow in the future. And you don't ( I repeat) don't kill civilians when you plan doesn't go as intended.
It simply couldn't go as intended after all, because historically Ukraine is way too different in Western and Eastern parts and to expect that the blue color regions would bend to the desires of Lvov is naive at least. So when things did not go as intended, the criminals in Kiev ( I don't have other word for them) should have put a stop to it all and allow Eastern Ukraine to follow its own path. That is if they'd have truly "European values" as they claim; ( after all Eastern Ukraine was not attacking Kiev,) but it's clearly not a case. Including the way they treat their own now, as a cannon fodder. That Putin is using this whole situation to his own advantage is a different story, however the source of a problem is really not in Russia vs Ukraine. It is in Western Ukraine vs Eastern Ukraine and global powers undoubtedly taking sides.
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As for woman, she can say and it can be gosizmena and can be her choice to say this, but this does not change what she hear on telephone.
What did she hear on the phone? I don't understand it.
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Right? Russia sponsor and supply DNR and all.
Russia indeed supply DNR. Why shouldn't it?
You see American generals meeting with Ukrainian "wounded heroes," you see Americans on the ground.
Why should not Russians help their own, when their leader fails to do it in a proper way, being as much indifferent to price of human life as his counterpart Poroshenko?
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I am done comment on this. People have different opinion and I respect it, but if you live in US it is hard to understand what it is there and what it is situation in the Donbas region.
Question - are you yourself in Donbass region , that you claim to understand "situation" there much better?
1. On phone she hear the general or some Russian armys leader talking about movement of army technologies.
2. I do not agree i with all Echo Moskva people- how can I? But the peoples I listen to do not support Gaidar, etc. I do not support what happen in 90s. It was horible, but what happen is bad too. Not as bad, very bad too though.
3. It's what I not like when US people, common people, comments on the politic in Russia as good and they say they want the curent Russian politics and Putin to be in America.
Nikishino is in NAF hands along with a lot of ammo and equipment. Reportedly 3 armored personnel carriers in full working order abandoned. Cathedral in Gorlivka was bombed by a stray artillery round.
Re: "It is in Western Ukraine vs Eastern Ukraine and global powers undoubtedly taking sides"
Definitely. See we agree on some things erasure!...;-)...Really it's an ideological war based in competing ideas flowing around in the global marketplace. This is a flat-out the battle of the Euro-Amerikanskis vs the Rossiyans. A brutal tug of war. And Rossiya will not let Ukraine go West'.
From my reading of the situation Rossiya has lost so much prestige on the global stage she cannot countenance 'losing' her Ukrainian lands after all that has happened. It is crucial to hold on to it no matter the consequences. It is needed for self-respect.
Just imagine how Europe looks to Putin. If he thought about 'influence' there where is it? Frankly, he sees (and no wonder America is hated in some quarters) simply the 'Americanization' of Europe to an extent. No way it is say ...'Russ-fied'. Kinda zilch zilch and zilch. For Putin, no doubt a proud proud Rossiyan man that kills him. And thus we go on and on with the Ukrainian war all for ideology.
Good news all around. Way to go Rebels! Next is Kiev, which will be freed from the fascists soon.
British Imperial Project in Ukraine: Violent Coup, Fascist Axioms, Neo-Nazis
Not a fan of the man, but good info.
The Silence of American Hawks About Kiev
"For months, the US-backed regime in Kiev has been committing atrocities against its own citizens in southeastern Ukraine"
I remember an article written by a Hungarian professor of history and social studies who saw what was going on with the "fascists" movement now and what it was in the past. He said that it's a mentality more than anything that is very common in large parts of eastern Europe in general. A mentality of ones superiority over others for whatever reason. He also went into how after WWII fascism was widely and openly condemned by governments and media far and wide. He also stated with alarm that since the turn of the century many countries have been quietly adopting and subtly modifying the public perceptions of fascism to make the ideals more useful politically.
I read that about 7 years ago and I have never been able to find the article again. It seems he was right though. Certain governments do seem to want to utilize this movement to their own ends by reinventing it.
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And not only in Russia, in the same Egypt wishing to come a lot. So do not Retrieve your lost, where we want to go there, and we will. Because most countries poboku on your desires and they will support Russia no matter what, because we profitable, proven and reliable partner 
And anyway anyway London lies 
