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Old 10-09-2014, 02:33 PM
 
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^Well, as it seems, writing референдум required a lot more brain cells than they actually had. And these kind of people are cheered and applauded by the public to get them a better outlook at the future

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Old 10-09-2014, 02:39 PM
 
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A recap of the DPR. Took those guys serious brainstorming to get the russian flag painted right, but writing "referendum" was a task too much to ask from them. This basically sums up the situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woD4...0BI-djXOlfhqWQ
But at least there you see there the overwhelming support of the local population.
And this is a brave Ukrainian nationalist in charge of Mariupol today. This, too, basically sums up the situation.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25rspDXx-CY
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Old 10-09-2014, 03:01 PM
 
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In other related news - this is the video made in Madrid.
They were supposed to have lectures in one of the local Universities on a subject of humanitarian catastrophe in Donetsk, the photo show on the May events in Odessa and other events. During one of the lectures the Ukrainian nationalists from "Svoboda" party and "Trizub" broke into the hall, waving Ukrainian flags and demanding to stop the lecture. They were saying that they won't allow to "slander the Right Sector" and that they are the ones who'd decide whom Spaniards should listen to or not.
Needless to say the usual "Glory to heroes" and "Glory to Bandera" was in place.
About 400 Spanish people gathered to "greet the visitors" and what you see is basically the result of it.
They've confiscated the Ukrainian banner with SS runes on it as a trophy and burned it in front of Ukrainian embassy reps according to witnesses.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPpGlQH7xHM
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Old 10-09-2014, 03:08 PM
 
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Here is more;
Germans sent a big convoy of humanitarian aid for Donbass

A German humanitarian aid convoy of over 100 trucks has crossed the Polish border into Ukraine heading for the restive regions of Donetsk and Lugansk in the east.

PressTV - 112-truck German aid convoy clears Ukraine customs

But it looks like Kiev doesn't let them through to Eastern Ukraine.

( I need more information on this one though..)
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Old 10-09-2014, 09:59 PM
 
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Thanks for the explanation of that video Erasure. I guess the people are getting a little fed up with all the fighting and killing. Understandable. That has to be hell on their moral.
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Old 10-09-2014, 10:08 PM
 
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In other related news - this is the video made in Madrid.
They were supposed to have lectures in one of the local Universities on a subject of humanitarian catastrophe in Donetsk, the photo show on the May events in Odessa and other events. During one of the lectures the Ukrainian nationalists from "Svoboda" party and "Trizub" broke into the hall, waving Ukrainian flags and demanding to stop the lecture. They were saying that they won't allow to "slander the Right Sector" and that they are the ones who'd decide whom Spaniards should listen to or not.
Needless to say the usual "Glory to heroes" and "Glory to Bandera" was in place.
About 400 Spanish people gathered to "greet the visitors" and what you see is basically the result of it.
They've confiscated the Ukrainian banner with SS runes on it as a trophy and burned it in front of Ukrainian embassy reps according to witnesses.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPpGlQH7xHM
These stupid nationalists just confirmed what that lecture was about.
Their only argument is a force. And they still want to join Europe. Or maybe they want to join EU to Ukraine? Looking at their actions I think it can be truth.
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Old 10-09-2014, 10:14 PM
 
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Here is more;
Germans sent a big convoy of humanitarian aid for Donbass

A German humanitarian aid convoy of over 100 trucks has crossed the Polish border into Ukraine heading for the restive regions of Donetsk and Lugansk in the east.

PressTV - 112-truck German aid convoy clears Ukraine customs

But it looks like Kiev doesn't let them through to Eastern Ukraine.

( I need more information on this one though..)
This convoy got in an accident in Ukraine.

Why Russian convoys never did? Furthermore, despite of crossing combat zone.

Вести.Ru: Немецкий конвой попал в аварию на Украине

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Old 10-09-2014, 10:50 PM
 
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This convoy got in an accident in Ukraine.

Why Russian convoys never did? Furthermore, despite of crossing combat zone.

Вести.Ru: Немецкий конвой попал в аварию на Украине
I see. The last five trucks have got into serious accident, since apparently they didn't keep the distance and couldn't react fast enough when the column had to stop abruptly. I hope the drivers are OK, because from what I see the trucks are seriously damaged.
There were 112 trucks in total, they were bringing humanitarian aid for 10 million Euro from 17 German cities...( mobile homes, beds, heaters, construction material)
The thing I wonder about though, is since they are planning to keep the load somewhere in the warehouses near Kiev, how much of it is going to reach Donetsk and Lugansk?
Even if Gerd Mueller (German Minister of Economic Cooperation and Development) who seems to be in charge of this initiative is planning to meet part of this cargo in Kharkov, again - it will be only a part of it. Why don't they send the trucks right away to Eastern Ukraine?
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Old 10-09-2014, 11:13 PM
 
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I see. The last five trucks have got into serious accident, since apparently they didn't keep the distance and couldn't react fast enough when the column had to stop abruptly. I hope the drivers are OK, because from what I see the trucks are seriously damaged.
There were 112 trucks in total, they were bringing humanitarian aid for 10 million Euro from 17 German cities...( mobile homes, beds, heaters, construction material)
The thing I wonder about though, is since they are planning to keep the load somewhere in the warehouses near Kiev, how much of it is going to reach Donetsk and Lugansk?
Even if Gerd Mueller (German Minister of Economic Cooperation and Development) who seems to be in charge of this initiative is planning to meet part of this cargo in Kharkov, again - it will be only a part of it. Why don't they send the trucks right away to Eastern Ukraine?
I think so too. I worry that this convoy can be plundered by ukrainian National Guard or battalions like Azov or Donbass.
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Old 10-09-2014, 11:36 PM
 
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Thanks for the explanation of that video Erasure. I guess the people are getting a little fed up with all the fighting and killing. Understandable. That has to be hell on their moral.
I was surprised to see all that. I mean I always knew that the "Right Sector" people were not the brightest bulbs, but to come with their banners to University in Spain?????
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