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Old 10-06-2014, 10:50 PM
 
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Old 10-06-2014, 11:21 PM
 
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What's being said here? They talk so fast I can't get it all.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjKstSBqy8c#t=145

Hatred. Hatred of the local population towards Ukrainian occupants.
I can't describe this video any other way.
This is Debalzovo in Eastern Ukraine ( they mention this particular town a lot on DNR/Russian sites - for whatever reason it has some strategic value, so this particular place has been contended many times over and over by both - Ukrainian Army and DNR. So the correspondent of Ukrainian TV is trying to make a point that it were rebels who shoot from Grad at 6 in the morning and the rocket hit one of the apartments in this building ( thanks lord there was no one there at that point.)
The locals are saying that they constantly hear on Ukrainian TV that there is no Ukrainian military there, they've left, yet, they say, the soldiers are stationed right on the ninth floor in this very building. ( You see them coming out later, grinning.)
At 8:32 the man is saying "Until Ukrainians came here, everything was fine. Everything was fine until they came. But you won't be able to be in charge here anyway - you won't be able to retain this place."
And a lot of anger from these women towards Poroshenko and the rest of politicians in Kiev; they curse Ukrainian soldiers in the video as well. If Ukrainian TV was trying to make a case against the rebels and to present Ukrainian army and the government in better light, they sure failed miserably. The locals are so angry - they don't even try to hold their anger back; you can see they've had enough, they are at the breaking point.
A very sobering picture of what's going on in Eastern Ukraine.

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Old 10-07-2014, 02:50 AM
 
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Right Sector demands Europe and US to write off ukrainian debt.

Украина должна требовать у Европы списания долгов, считает "Правый сектор" - АН-online

Dreamers...

Everything EU and US want is to use Ukraine not help it.
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Old 10-07-2014, 03:04 AM
 
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Dear Brothers and Sisters,

a short speech about the Ukraine Crises from the point of few of the nationalist in Germany.

Many Russian politicians know how fatal it can end with a regimented Western press and false media reports, the last two world wars have proven this.

So far for now, the EU only has to fear higher gas prices.

But if we are not careful it does not stop at this point, and the Western media put us again in a war and history repeat it self again.

In German history it has already ended twice in a World War because of the fact the media is the strongest propaganda weapon know from history.

Immediately before the First World War was started, one-sided reporting by media was in these Times as well in newspapers all over the German Empire.

A leaf always has two sides and you should consider each side objectively.

The first side from the leaf is the media, the second side are the Average Ukrainian worker that earns per month about $200-$250).

It is actually quite sad based on these facts that the Ukraine provides the poor house in Europe, and poverty was always one of the main reasons for war in history of mankind.

The Belligerents because of this poverty are now the Ukraine Government and the Federal State of Novorossiya.

But in fact a shared long and common history” implies Ukraine and Russia are somehow like Siamese twins – in their origins, historical development, and in their current values and outlooks, when we go to the beginning of Russian history Ukraine and Russians share the same heritage.

In Kiev also known as Kievan Rus' are the basics of the Russian History.

Over 1,400 Ukraine civilians have been killed until now,

2,200 civilians and combatants killed overall and Countless numbers of civil Ukrainians fled from the ongoing conflict to Russia, all numbers are still increasing.

A conflict between brother nations is always a sing of weakness we all have to work for a stronger Russia as we know it from the past.

Thank you for listening



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Old 10-08-2014, 01:04 AM
 
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Up to a dozen Ukraine officials dumped in wheelie bins

'Trash bucket challenge' spreads across Ukraine as activisits throw politicians into rubbish bins to 'punish corruption'

It’s a bad time to be a Ukrainian politician.

The war in the east refuses to end, despite a “ceasefire”. Winter is approaching, and with it all the worries of another “gas-war” with Russia. And with parliamentary elections just weeks away, pre-revolutionary MPs are getting nervous about hanging on to their jobs.

To make things worse, there is a growing chance of ending up in a wheelie bin.

Since early September up to a dozen MPs, city councillors and other officials accused of wrong doing have been hauled from their offices by masked gangs in what has become know as the “Trash Bucket Challenge.”

The perpetrators - often members of the radical right-wing group Right Sector - say the public humiliations are to punish the corruption and criminality that characterised the previous regime.

But critics warn the attacks are just one step away from mob justice and public lynchings.

“The main thing in our country now is that the criminals are all still there,” said Yury Mindiuk, the head of Right Sector’s central executive. “No one wants to implement the ideas of Maidan.”

Right Sector emerged as an alliance of far right groups during the revolution, and earned a fearsome reputation as one of the most militant elements in the street fighting that led to Mr Yanukovych’s overthrow. Since then some members of the group have fought in the war in eastern Ukraine, but they have struggled to find political relevance in post-revolutionary politics.

It was the group’s Odessa branch that came up with the idea last month, when they dumped Oleg Rudenko, a city insurance official accused of taking a £28,000 bribe, in a trash can.

The stunt hit a chord. Soon Right Sector groups across the country were doing the same thing to anyone from MPs with links to the previous regime through to local municipal officials accused of taking bribes.

On September 16 a mob grabbed and “binned” Vitaly Zhuravsky, an MP formerly of Mr Yanukovych’s now defunct Party of the Regions. On September 25 it was the turn of Viktor Pylypyshyn, another Party of the Regions man.

In both cases activists seemed most upset about their support for repressive package of laws Mr Yanukovych rushed through parliament in a doomed bid to crush the anti-government protests in December.

But it is not just MPs linked to Mr Yanukoych who are in danger. In the most recent incident on Right Sector’s website features a doctor from a municipal hospital in the small town of Terebolvya. The group says he was convicted of bribery three months ago.

Others have taken up the “trash bucket challenge.” Oleh Lyashko, a controversial MP who has earned notoriety for his DIY “arrests” of suspected separatists in the east of the country, frog-marched a municipal official in Kirovograd into a wheelie bin for “lying.”

The tensions underlying the practice go back to last winter’s revolution.

When protesters swept over the 18ft high walls of Viktor Yanukovych’s out of town residence after he fled on February 22, they found an estate half the size of Monaco replete with private zoo, classic car collection, and a now infamous mock-galleon restaurant moored on the river. The clubs at the private golf course were embossed with Mr Yanukovych’s initials.

It was a jaw-dropping demonstration of the scale and depth of the corruption that had angered so many protesters.
Seven months on, Mr Yanukovych is long gone, and the estate has been returned to public ownership.

But many feel the deep rooted political culture of personal enrichment and corruption it represents - and which the revolution was meant to put an end to - endures.

A so-called “lustration law,” which would subject national and local officials to screening for corruption of other wrong doing, was passed by the Ukrainian parliament in August. But no one has yet been subjected to the checks, let along lost their job under it.

To make matters worse, the Prosecutor General last week warned that the law is unconstitutional and violates international law.

As Mr Mindiuk puts it, “we wouldn’t have to do this if the authorities were doing their job: prosecute these people in a court of law.”

“Put them in jail, legally. Clean up this so-called establishment. Because we’re not ready to wait around until the children of the Party of the Regions grow up in the hope they’ll be better than their parents,” said Mr Mindiuk.
It is meant to be a political street theatre, a public humiliation rather than a lynching. But the stunts can get frighteningly out of hand.

Nestor Shufrych, another MP of Mr Yanukovych’s now disbanded Party of the Regions, ended up in hospital after his campaign stop in Odessa was interrupted by protesters.

Police and body guards managed to get the MP to his campaign bus before the mob could dump him in a bin. But a video shows him taking a nasty beating before he made his escape. He later said he received a concussion during the violence.
Mr Mindiuk later admitted the group had gone too far, and the incident prompted Arsen Avakov, the Interior Minister, issued a plea via his Facebook page for the radicals to desist.

“Just a couple more broken faces like Shufrich’s or lynchings like Pylypyshin, and Europe will turn away from our victorious revolution,” he said. “Don’t be marginal morons, follow stupid instincts and provoke crowds to mob justice,” he wrote.
That got short thrift from the radicals, however.

“Avakov is the Moron,” Mr Lyashko wrote in his reply, “for not understanding that people act in such a radical way because there is no law.”

“Today we’ll lustrate the Party of the Regions through the trash, and tomorrow we’ll throw Avakov on the landfill.”

Both Right Sector and Mr Lyashko revel in their respective reputations for direct action - and, indeed, violence. But public backing for their tactics appears to be lukewarm.

Although polling puts Mr Lyashko’s Radical party in second place at the up coming parliamentary elections on October 26, it is set to take little more than 10 percent of the vote.

Right Sector’s leader Dmytro Yarosh took less than 1 percent of the vote at the presidential election in June, and the group does not look likely to make gains.

Up to a dozen Ukraine officials dumped in wheelie bins - Telegraph
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Old 10-08-2014, 06:18 AM
 
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Default Ukraine has no future

Exchange of prisoners of war in Ukraine.




Pay attention in what physical state there is the Ukrainian prisoner of war, and in what physical state there is a captured rebel.

Tell who people, and who animals?
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Old 10-08-2014, 07:51 PM
 
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The pic in 6384 with the guy holding the gun was made at Ismailova Park not far from Hotel Gamma I'm willing to bet.
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Old 10-09-2014, 12:37 PM
 
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Ukraine:


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Old 10-09-2014, 02:14 PM
 
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A recap of the DPR. Took those guys serious brainstorming to get the russian flag painted right, but writing "referendum" was a task too much to ask from them. This basically sums up the situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woD4...0BI-djXOlfhqWQ
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Old 10-09-2014, 02:18 PM
 
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^ Well, English is not their first language. Almost all of them speak only Russian and Ukranian.
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