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Old 10-04-2014, 06:50 PM
 
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Ariete. It all depends on many factors, yeah they may be 25 years old but for their intended purpose they may well be ideal. Biggest baddest with the most LCD displays in the cockpit doesn't mean best.

MIG-29s were designed to be a front line fighter. By "front line" I mean in the chit with the grunts. They don't need 3 mile long runways, a straight reasonably level country road will do nicely. They don't have long range but they can carry a large warload a short distance and deliver it accurately and quickly, air or land threats.

On top of that they're durable, easy to maintain with parts readily available in quantity and well trained crews will not be hard to come by.

Your comment was typically shallow and as usual totally ignorant of facts.
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Old 10-05-2014, 12:27 AM
 
Location: Russia
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April 2014, Ukraine. MiG-29 flies over the people.

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Old 10-05-2014, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Westminster, London
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This guy simulates a restricted conventional NATO/Ukraine vs Russia conflict in the Black Sea.

The NATO fleet gets annihilated very quickly by a saturation strike (à la Red Storm Rising) with Sunburn missiles.

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Old 10-05-2014, 11:21 AM
 
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front line airforce in the 80's, maybe.
Versus Finland which is the F-18, designed in the 1970's as well, and even introduced the same year as the MIG-29.

The US F-15, in which the MIG-29 was designed to compete with, is still widely used by US among many other countries. The other heavily used, the F-16, is a design from the 1960's.

But besides the platform, the weapons used are even more important. As the US has showed in the last two decades, precision bombing and avoidance of AA is much more effective than in-flight dog fighting abilities. Though the US uses platforms designed in the 1970's, the weapons are modernized to provide precision strikes.
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Old 10-06-2014, 12:07 AM
 
Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine
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Lenin fall.






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Old 10-06-2014, 01:59 AM
 
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Wadym

Yeah, and what? Absoulutely silly thing. You know, Sakharov and other dissenters didn't vandalize monuments.
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Old 10-06-2014, 02:25 AM
 
Location: Sevastopol city, Russia.
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Lenin fall.
Well, then you have to destroy all the five-story buildings and factories, constructed in the Soviet period. Destroy everything. For more than 24 years you have not built anything.
PS By the way Lenin had gave Ukraine the Statehood the first time in history.
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Old 10-06-2014, 03:27 AM
 
Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine
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Wadym

Yeah, and what? Absoulutely silly thing. You know, Sakharov and other dissenters didn't vandalize monuments.
Nope, Ukraine should not be a long course of communism and the meaning of this Idol is missing. Look better at Moskow - keep a mummy in the center of your capital is the barbarity.



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Well, then you have to destroy all the five-story buildings and factories, constructed in the Soviet period. Destroy everything. For more than 24 years you have not built anything.
PS By the way Lenin had gave Ukraine the Statehood the first time in history.
You're drunk again? What kind of Communist ideology has to building?
Go get read a history book, instead smoking behind the school.
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Old 10-06-2014, 03:57 AM
 
Location: Sevastopol city, Russia.
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... You're drunk again? What kind of Communist ideology has to building?
Go get read a history book, instead smoking behind the school.
What a nonsense utter you are saying here like a ditz! I see you are all mouth and trousers. Who are you to lecture here? You'd better learn to spell right the word "Moscow", and then to blather something here.
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Old 10-06-2014, 04:08 AM
 
Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine
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What a nonsense utter you are saying here like a ditz! I see you are all mouth and trousers. Who are you to lecture here? You'd better learn to spell right the word "Moscow", and then to blather something here.
So you have nothing to answer as fact better to go to sleep, you would tomorrow again drink and watch tv with morning Putin.
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