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Originally Posted by travric
Re: ramzes 'I have long wanted.....'
Unfortunately because of my utter lack of understanding of Russian (which sometimes I find deplorable and may need to be absolutely rectified!) sometimes I wish translation if and when it occurs should be much better at times especially in a thread like this. I appreciate ramzes' post but I am reluctant to comment because I just may completely misinterpret the remarks.
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Travric, it was some Ukrainian guy's entrance in Live Journal ( I've figured that much out,) and ramzes apparently made an attempt to translate it, because he agrees with this guy's opinion. ( Just my assumption.)
yurasumy -
So here it is for you, I've tried to make translation more readable; ( the person who wrote it hails from this particular region of Ukraine ( since it's included in his nickname) -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumy
(We all know by now that regions in Ukraine are important thing under the circumstances
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"Long ago I wanted to write on this subject but I couldn't get to it.
All that I see around me the last half a year has some surreal feel to it.
Allegedly at the end of February Russia declared a war on Ukraine. From this point in Ukraine the first military draft began ( and then second one, and then then third). No one believed then that they'll really have to shoot, however the "patriotic" hype was incredibly high. Days, weeks, months have passed. War acquired more and more of the new "attributes": the rupture of humanitarian, economic and cultural ties. Then embargoes poured one after another. Well and finally it came to the climax; "Russian" and the "Ukrainian" soldiers met on the battlefield ( there is no sense to deny it after the capture of the " lost" paratroopers )
And so? What's the reaction of simple folks to all this? On TV screen everything looks nice and patriotic. Someone gathers, some demands about something are made. Russia is called an aggressor. This is the work of mass media; "nothing personal" as Americans say. And if you turn the camera off and to watch closely the actions of your regular Ukrainians, then we'll see ( taking Sumi region as example) that the majority of its inhabitants, in order to dodge the draft escaped to Russia. Looking for jobs, the majority of them go to Russia ( because we practically don't have any jobs and we have less and less of them available with every passing day.) Generally speaking, if we'll have the humanitarian catastrophe god forbids, we'll be running for salvation... yes, you've guessed it, to Russia.
Yet at the same time the brutal propaganda against Russia does its part. Many really believe that Russia is the enemy. And not as a nation, but as the way of thinking. The obsessive idea of Maydan crowd in June was the following: "We will march on Moscow to bring freedom and..... happiness to Russian people" which pines under Putin's tyranny (and it was not important at that that that no one asked them for it. They simply CARED you see.) By now of course their mood is more gloomy.) By the way the intentions of the majority of Russians towards Ukrainians are approximately the same.
Don't you think that we've already seen this type of behavior somewhere somehow, earlier in time? Personally I've noticed the similarity long time ago. The inhabitants of these territories acted in the same manner back in 1917-1921. Nothing changed since then. Same invaders, same Civil war from Vladivostok to Zhmerinka (since people who fight in Donbass come from all kind of regions - from Zhmerinka to Vladivostok, so it is what it is.) Same artificially drawn borders that some particularly engulfed by nationalism scientists are trying to create basis for, although stubbornly refusing to acknowledge the local population. We've seen it all already before.
Personally I see the events that are happening now not only in Ukraine, but also in all former USSR territories, with their successful or unsuccessful Maydans, etc. as one civil conflict of ONE and the same people. The essence of a conflict lays not in a fact that all these people are different, but what path they'll have to choose ALL TOGETHER. And I underline it again - ALL TOGETHER. And that where the appeal of Maidan participants comes from "to march on Moscow" ( and even further than Moscow if neccessary,) and that's where the idea of Russians "to help Ukrainians to get rid of the scourge of faschism" is coming from as well. Because subconsciously we still consider ourselves one and the same peope, and that's why we can't just pass by. We need to stick our nose... into each other's business.
And this lack of indifference is the main indication of the unity of people. As soon as we'll become indifferent to each other affairs... then yes, you can start drawing borders. Then we are going to be really different people. But as long as all Ukrainian media sticks its nose in Russia's affairs ( and vice verser) 24/7, the hope is not lost. We still can reunite. Because we are so eager to teach each other how to do things the "right way," that we can't part.
And that's wonderful.
That's how it supposed to be.
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