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Future south-east of Ukraine:
Лично у нас складывается впечатления, что есть силы которые хотят прекращения конфликта. А так как кровь пролита, начинают сливать участников. Типа это они сами. В это же время есть другие силы которые не хотят превращения конфликта, эти вытаскивают все чего можно.
Но в общем конфронтация нарастает. Пока тока пугают друг друга. Но из личного опыта, обычно это кончается крупной дракой.(с)участник событий
The attempt of translation:
Personally, I have the impression that there are forces that want to end the conflict. But the blood was shed, and someone start to eliminate participants. At the same time, there are other forces that do not want to end the conflict, they pull out all that they can.
Confrontation grows. Currently there parties to the conflict to frighten each other. But from personal experience, it usually ends in a big fight.(с)participant of the events
Re: ' forces that do not want to end the conflict'
You know I'd say this crises doesn't look as it will 'exhaust' itself to an extent that we can say hey there's our 'peace in the valley'. Now if we look at Iraq and Syria I'd say it's an example of when radicalization of a certain ilk gets hold of a political/military line and puts the 'pedal to metal' in pursuing its goals. If that kind of paradigm starts to happen in Ukraine well it will be a harbinger of its destruction.
All I see around me the past six months has some plaque surrealism.
Supposedly in late February, Russia announced Ukraine war. From that moment began the first in Ukraine to mobilize (and then the second, third). No one did not believe in that shoot really necessary, but "patriotic" frenzy was incredibly high. As the days passed, weeks, months. War overgrown with new and new "attributes": breaking the humanitarian, economic and cultural ties. Then fell embargo. Finally came to the chief. "Russian" and "Ukrainian" soldiers met on the field of battle (to deny it after the capture of "stray" Marines does not make sense).
So what? What is the reaction of ordinary people on all this. Out of all the TV picture is enough "patriotichnenko." Someone is going to something from someone requires. Russia calls aggressor. It's the media's work, nothing personal, as the Americans say. And if the "turn off the camera" and look at the actions of the "simple" Ukrainians, we will see (on the example of Sumy region) that conscription podalyayuschee sumchan most fled to Russia. The vast majority goes to work (because we work very little and it is every day becoming more discreet and inconspicuous) in Russia. What can I say if (God forbid) if we have a humanitarian catastrophe, then run for salvation will be properly ...... again in Russia.
And at the same time total and tough campaign against Russia is doing its job. Many truly believe in what Russian enemy. And Russia is not, as a nation, but as a way of thinking. Obsession maydanovtsev back in June and was like, "We will go to Moscow to bring freedom and happiness ..... Russian people" who languishes under the tyranny of Putin (at what it did not matter that they did not ask about it. They just was not all the same). Now of course despondent and subsided. By the way most of the intentions of Russian Ukrainians about the same.
Do not you think about this type of behavior here, we are getting somewhere or heard somewhere saw him. Personally, I caught a long analogy. Similarly, behaved residents of these areas in the years 1917-1921. Nothing has changed since then. Those invaders, the same Civil War from Vladivostok to Zhmerinka (once in the Donbas fighting men from the east to J. then and there). Those artificially drawn borders that some particularly concerned with nationalism, scientists are trying to prove. But that stubbornly refuses to recognize the local population. All this has already been.
Personally, I see the events that are taking place not only in Ukraine, but also on the whole territory of the former USSR, with their successful or unsuccessful Maidan, etc. civil conflict as one single nation. The conflict is not that the people are different, and in which way they all will go. And it is on the basis of all together. This is where the calls maydanovtsev to march on Moscow, and if necessary a further (principle all together). And hence the desire Russian "help" cure batsily "fascism" (principle all together) the so-called people Ukraine. Because we subconsciously think of each other as one people, and therefore can not walk past. We need to be sure to poke your nose into things ...... each other. And care about is the main sign of the unity of the people. Once we were each other's affairs will not care, then all .... Draw border. Then it will have different people. In the meantime, all the Ukrainian media 24 hours a day pry into the affairs of Russia (and vice versa) is not lost. We can still be reunited. After all, we just want to teach each other to live right, and each will fail.
And this is the speech of yet another well-known military leader of Novorossiya, Alexey Mozgovoy, a commander of legendary brigade "Ghost" (Prizrak,) the one that a poster "from Ukraine" was so afraid of, (trying to assure us here that it was "destroyed," heh.)
Ethnically he is actually a Ukrainian, but considers himself Russian.
More on a subject; there is definitely a rift within DNR leadership. Some agree to bow to Putin wishes, his cronies and their mercantile calculations, and some, apparently, don't want any of it.
Some people from DNR recently issued this public appeal to DNR army, that I saw on different sites, that says that basically there was a betrayal in the higher ranks of DNR and that "there is no sense of protecting the land that has been already sold behind your backs." They christen the traitors "the oligarchs stooges," and are talking about the "state treason " that took place in Minsk.
And of course meanwhile, while people are still dying from bombs in this conflict, the klaus schwabs of this world are already anxious to "not to miss business opportunities" in developing situation, gathering in Geneve.
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Ukraine has no future
