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Old 09-11-2014, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Estonia
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Seems like Russia is into the 'send people to Siberia' bandwagon again. Can't say I'm surprised.

"I was shocked by an article published in a Magadan newspaper reporting that when the first airplane landed there with 400 Ukrainian refugees, journalists rushed forward to ask their questions but were stopped by the passengers asking, "Where are we?"

It turned out that when they were put on a plane in the Crimean capital of Simferopol, they were told they were flying to the Black Sea town of Anapa. And when they landed instead in Magadan — almost 7,000 kilometers to the east — they were told they were only entitled to that one free flight: for all flights out of Magadan, they would have to pay full price."


Ukrainian Refugees to Repopulate Siberia | Opinion | The Moscow Times
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Old 09-11-2014, 06:10 PM
 
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"I was shocked by an article published in a Magadan newspaper reporting that when the first airplane landed there with 400 Ukrainian refugees, journalists rushed forward to ask their questions but were stopped by the passengers asking, "Where are we?"

It turned out that when they were put on a plane in the Crimean capital of Simferopol, they were told they were flying to the Black Sea town of Anapa. And when they landed instead in Magadan — almost 7,000 kilometers to the east — they were told they were only entitled to that one free flight: for all flights out of Magadan, they would have to pay full price."
So if Mr Andrei Malgin read this article where is the link in his article? Where's the proof? Any proof of this allegation at all?

I don't believe this happened. It's morons like this with an ax to grind and master to serve that have been kicking we the people, all of us, in the balls for a long time. People like this are worthless to any society.

Here's something I found.

10,699.5 kilometres to a new life as refugees from Ukraine arrive in Magadan on the Pacific coast

What's the truth? Who knows.

Kuulkulgur I can cherry pick just as well as you.
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Old 09-11-2014, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Sanjo, Califas.
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Sorry guys,
I think your opportunity to get rid of Russia was when YOU had those nuclear missiles.
Sanctions won't work unless europe gets it's gas from somewhere else, and I don't see that in the near future.

Sorry guys, really sorry.
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Old 09-11-2014, 08:49 PM
 
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So if Mr Andrei Malgin read this article where is the link in his article? Where's the proof? Any proof of this allegation at all?

I don't believe this happened. It's morons like this with an ax to grind and master to serve that have been kicking we the people, all of us, in the balls for a long time. People like this are worthless to any society.

Here's something I found.

10,699.5 kilometres to a new life as refugees from Ukraine arrive in Magadan on the Pacific coast

What's the truth? Who knows.

Kuulkulgur I can cherry pick just as well as you.

I checked on Andrei Malgin ( I saw his entries in the Live Journal before, ( always anti-Russian in the current conflict,) but I was not sure who he was.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C...B2%D0%B8%D1%87

To me he looks like a former Soviet functionary, who fell off with the regime, has been deprived of certain perks and from that time on he has "an ax to grind" - precisely as you've mentioned.
So he basically has more or less the same attitude as some other Eastern Europeans here ( you know the drill,) so it's hard to get an objective outlook from people like that.
From what I've read on this situation with Ukrainian refugees ( being sent to Magadan from Crimea) - well, it looks like the majority of them were originally from Lugansk, mostly women with children.
There were 380 of them; 200 flew to Yakutsk, the rest proceeded to Magadan. So I can make a guess that once they've landed, some wanted to specify where exactly they were. I've read that at least one family had relatives somewhere in the area, so I have hard time believing that people would have been sent to such distance without knowing their destination. In fact, this particular family is mentioning their fears before the trip; they thought they'd come, look around, get scared and would try to go back to Ukraine. They were surprised that "everything was green" ( well at least during this time of the year) as "back in Ukraine"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIbEg7l_vfo

I was not familiar with what Magadan looks like today; so here it is.

http://www.gff-lgi.spb.ru/image/DSC05165-.jpg

http://fototelegraf.ru/wp-content/up...ukotku-117.jpg

http://image.zn.ua/media/images/orig...2014/95686.jpg

http://coiscatel.ru/45134fc5-343a-42...dbae177ab9.jpg

And this is Yakutsk;

http://www.yakutsk-city.ru/media/upl...0%B4%D0%B0.jpg

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/1278493.jpg

http://www.on-walking.com/files/yakutsk-5/014.jpg

http://fotki.ykt.ru/albums/userpics/...utsk_foto1.jpg

This is not to say that this whole situation with refugees is not playing into Putin's hands. I've mentioned that already some time ago.
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Old 09-11-2014, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Australia
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Seems like Russia is into the 'send people to Siberia' bandwagon again. Can't say I'm surprised.

"I was shocked by an article published in a Magadan newspaper reporting that when the first airplane landed there with 400 Ukrainian refugees, journalists rushed forward to ask their questions but were stopped by the passengers asking, "Where are we?"

It turned out that when they were put on a plane in the Crimean capital of Simferopol, they were told they were flying to the Black Sea town of Anapa. And when they landed instead in Magadan — almost 7,000 kilometers to the east — they were told they were only entitled to that one free flight: for all flights out of Magadan, they would have to pay full price."


Ukrainian Refugees to Repopulate Siberia | Opinion | The Moscow Times
Siberia is not bad. It's like Scandinavian countries, cold but liveable. There are already lot of Russians living there.
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Old 09-12-2014, 09:26 AM
 
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I think Mr. Solzhenitsyn got a ticket there at one time. He didn't like it there.
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Old 09-12-2014, 12:39 PM
 
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I think Mr. Solzhenitsyn got a ticket there at one time. He didn't like it there.
And so did Stalin during Tzarists times. He didn't like it there either or so I've heard.

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Old 09-12-2014, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Finland
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Siberia is not bad. It's like Scandinavian countries, cold but liveable. There are already lot of Russians living there.
LOL. Magadan is one of the most isolated cities in the world and Siberia is 100 times colder. Scandinavia is like upstate New York in winter.
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Old 09-12-2014, 02:28 PM
 
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Yes and it sure didn't kill him. I see he did 3 years in Irkutsk. Living there probably made him more mentally tough for that revolutionary war to come. He wasn't called 'Stalin' (man of steel) for nothing.
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Old 09-12-2014, 02:55 PM
 
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Yes and it sure didn't kill him. I see he did 3 years in Irkutsk. Living there probably made him more mentally tough for that revolutionary war to come. He wasn't called 'Stalin' (man of steel) for nothing.
Where do you see it I'm curious, because his first exile was near Irkutsk, but he escaped in a month or so...
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