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Old 03-11-2022, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Gainesville, FL; formerly Weston, FL
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Yes, saw this too. Looks like Putin is getting pushback from the Russian citizens seeing returning wounded troops and body bags. He’s sending in the hired Middle Eastern guns who won’t be mourned by the Russians.
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Old 03-11-2022, 10:54 AM
 
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Yes, saw this too. Looks like Putin is getting pushback from the Russian citizens seeing returning wounded troops and body bags. He’s sending in the hired Middle Eastern guns who won’t be mourned by the Russians.

I assume they are hiring the mercenaries at this point, because a lot of other mercenaries ( from the Western countries first of all) are heading to Ukraine from what I've heard.
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Old 03-11-2022, 10:58 AM
 
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Yes, saw this too. Looks like Putin is getting pushback from the Russian citizens seeing returning wounded troops and body bags. He’s sending in the hired Middle Eastern guns who won’t be mourned by the Russians.



Just saw this on reddit, Kaputin:


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Old 03-11-2022, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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Well, it will still require the participation of Congress, but the US govt is looking at revoking "Most Favored Nation" trade status for Russia, and if early reports are correct, the votes look to be there.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96fb4bfkpgw
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Old 03-11-2022, 10:26 PM
 
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So..
In addition to this particular post (regarding the spiritual/ideological roots of today's Nationalist state that Ukraine is;

This is my favorite Ukrainian blogger/turned politician reporting the latest Nationalists "show of force" in Kiev couple of days ago;

"The National Druzhina(s).

What they didn't show you."

"So the day before yesterday, there was a massive show of the National Druzhina's in Kiev.

And as difficult as it was to miss it, the Ukrainian media preferred to *not to notice* it.

The first reports on it started showing up may seven hours ago, in the most cautious manner.

Overall they are trying to be as cautious as possible to report about any marches, because god forbids some *mean people* might show up and set the editorial office on fire.

The Russian Media reacted with their usual rhetoric "thank you EU and US - the Nazi are marching in Kiev again."

We decided to look at this event from inside.
I am not going to give my personal opinion on it right now - you will see it all yourself with your own eyes.

I condensed the two hour show in this 11 minute video, and I have to say only one thing most definitely;

When the law enforcement structure of the state is not able to fulfill its functions, then other organization will step in. And these organizations are not all that nice and fluffy.
And another thing that I'd like to take note of, is how nicely everything is organized in these organizations.

And of course the size and capacities of it, that are hard to not to notice.

As for the rest - this is an opportunity for you to observe it all on your own and to come to your own conclusions.
Oh, yet one more thing I'd like to mention regarding the sanctification of the banners ( that you will see there,)
There is some seal out there, some seal that used to belong to one of the Kievan princes, that Beletsky ( Azov's founder) *redeemed* from Moscow, ( as Azov's representatives report.)
So enjoy the show"
( From 2:02.)
"I will show you how many of them are here, so you'd understand the numbers...
2:48. -Hello, what would you like to say
I'd like to say hello too and to let you too, that today it's going to be a great event... the show of the national druzhinas...
3:27 I want to let you know... that every subdivision will get its own banner, that it will carry with honor.
-I serve the Ukrainian nation.
-We will show to everyone that we are ready for the new accomplishments.
4:15; They are all (not?) working. Or are they all working in the same place?
Do you think it's possible for that many people to not to work anywhere?
There are some students among them, some people who still serve in the army and wanted to join Druzhinas.. And then some older people that are already in the workforce...
When there were the floods in the Western Ukraine lately, they went there too...
They fight the crimonal activites as well - such as illegal casinos and everything that connected to it...
5:36; Tell me who you are, and what are you doing....what's that you are doing?
-I am the head of the National Druzhina of the Zaporozhie city.
We are busy keeping the order on the streets of our city...
-Who are all these people, and who gathered them here?
-The majority of these people are the veterans of "anti-terrorist operation" ( read civil war in Donbass,) and concerned citizens, that keep the situation in the country close to their hearts.
-Who is financing you?
-All the guys are the volunteers. Many of them are working at other jobs...
And they dedicate their free time to patriotic... patriotic activities.
- What were the most notable things you did in Zaporozhie?
- We are volunteering... we are going after the illegal casinos... and the drug dealers... and separatists..
-People are asking - what does it mean to "establish order"?
- Well what do you mean by that.. When there is no order in your house, when there is trouble there, a man who is the master of the house, - it's his duty to establish the order.
That's why we.... all of us are fighting and will fight till the last drop, until there is an order in our country.
-What's an operation "Nerest" that took place recently?
- ( Happy that he has a prompt) Oh yes, operation "Nerest" was taking place in the city of Cherkassy, where for many years the poachers were fishing illegally.. in industrial size operations... We cane from all over Ukraine, and for the whole month we were catching the poachers and removing their nets...about 100 km of it all together. So a lot of poachers have quit their illegal activities.
At this point the inhabitants of Cherkassy are grateful to us, that we took care of this situation.
-So what's your attitude towards Poroshenko and Avakov ( the Minister of internal affairs)- all these people?
- More negative than positive.
...We have our own army. We are more of the opposition to them.
National police - it's good too, but we are more competent in certain things than them.
9:36. -What's your opinion of Poroshenko and Avakov?
-We don't consider them to be decent people, because they received power, but they didn't do anything positive.
That's why we have to get together to take care of things in Ukraine.
-Some people are writing to us that you are all not working.
- No, why, we have different people here among us - some of us are business people, some are blue collar workers, some are students...We are all people who want to live in a great country, in great Ukraine...
10:11 Today, after a year of successful service, the subdivisions that deserved it, are receiving their banners.
Now they are going to take oath to Ukraine.
Their banners are going to be consecrated with the seal of Svyatoslav, which is over 1,000 years old. Andrey Beletsky brought it back from Russia. He redeemed it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ36dxjY4cg&t=605s


And YOU, my dear naive Western viewer, what would YOU think of this march if you'd ever come across it in Kiev couple of days ago?

What would YOU innocently assume it was?

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Old 03-11-2022, 11:31 PM
 
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Just saw this on reddit, Kaputin:

Love it - great play on words!
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Old 03-12-2022, 01:02 AM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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I assume they are hiring the mercenaries at this point, because a lot of other mercenaries ( from the Western countries first of all) are heading to Ukraine from what I've heard.
I think the Syrians are not doing it for pay.
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Old 03-12-2022, 09:07 AM
 
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I think the Syrians are not doing it for pay.
I don't suppose you'd have any evidence to support that claim?
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Old 03-12-2022, 09:12 AM
 
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As if Zel doesn't have enough trouble already! North Carolina congressman Madison Cawthorn (him what bees in a wheelchair), has broken with the GOP and accused Zel of being " a thug pushing woke ideologies". Bet that scares Zel.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...asion-1319493/
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Old 03-12-2022, 10:32 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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I don't suppose you'd have any evidence to support that claim?
Zomogor is that you? Or has he/she been shipped to Siberia for failing in their 'duty'?
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