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Old 03-09-2022, 11:28 AM
 
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I noticed a few thousand Ukrainians have fled to Russia since the war started.

And obviously, many more would prefer to flee to Russia, away from the shelled cities.
So when the Russians offer the "green corridors," part of which lead to Russia/Belorussia, ( which would prove THEIR point that they fight with the current Ukrainian government and not the civilians,) the Ukrainian Vice president I. Vereshuk calls this escape routs "immoral" and thus unacceptable and "not agreed upon" by Ukraine.

You can come to your own conclusion, that this Ukrainian government would rather see the civilians dead than making "immoral decision" of running to Russia.

From what I've heard yesterday, one rout was agreed upon, moving from.. the city of Sumi to Western Ukraine and then to Polish border, but the majority of 750 people that were taken there, were the foreigners ( the Indians I assume, that were so desperate to the point, that they were heading for the Russian border themselves.)

Mariupol is in the worst shape possible in this respect.

From what the few people that made it alive from there are saying, is that no one in town knows about the green corridors, that the bridges around the town are blown up, and the city authorities didn't tell anything to the civilians about the evacuation.

Apparently, it's *immoral* to save the lives of civilians ( and this includes children's lives, yes - the ones that Easthome screams about on every corner,) with the help of Russians, when the Nationalist battalions are "dying for Ukraine's freedom."

What does this reminds you of, can you tell me?



Mariupol is completely surrounded by Russian/LDNR troops from all sides.

Russians want to move civilians out of town, in order to attack the troops sitting there, and shelling them from the residential buildings. ( Hospitals, schools including.)


I keep on watching the situation , since after yesterday's attempt to evacuate people via "immoral routs" failed for the most part, Russians decided to extend the effort into today.

The roads around Mariupol are mined, which makes any attempt for the civilians to escape even more dangerous, and it's obviously not the Russians that mined them, since they still need to make it into the city.

So I ask you again - what this whole situation reminds you of?
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Old 03-09-2022, 11:44 AM
 
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And obviously, many more would prefer to flee to Russia, away from the shelled cities.
So when the Russians offer the "green corridors," part of which lead to Russia/Belorussia, ( which would prove THEIR point that they fight with the current Ukrainian government and not the civilians,) the Ukrainian Vice president I. Vereshuk calls this escape routs "immoral" and thus unacceptable and "not agreed upon" by Ukraine.

You can come to your own conclusion, that this Ukrainian government would rather see the civilians dead than making "immoral decision" of running to Russia.

From what I've heard yesterday, one rout was agreed upon, moving from.. the city of Sumi to Western Ukraine and then to Polish border, but the majority of 750 people that were taken there, were the foreigners ( the Indians I assume, that were so desperate to the point, that they were heading for the Russian border themselves.)

Mariupol is in the worst shape possible in this respect.

From what the few people that made it alive from there are saying, is that no one in town knows about the green corridors, that the bridges around the town are blown up, and the city authorities didn't tell anything to the civilians about the evacuation.

Apparently, it's *immoral* to save the lives of civilians ( and this includes children's lives, yes - the ones that Easthome screams about on every corner,) with the help of Russians, when the Nationalist battalions are "dying for Ukraine's freedom."

What does this reminds you of, can you tell me?



Mariupol is completely surrounded by Russian/LDNR troops from all sides.

Russians want to move civilians out of town, in order to attack the troops sitting there, and shelling them from the residential buildings. ( Hospitals, schools including.)


I keep on watching the situation , since after yesterday's attempt to evacuate people via "immoral routs" failed for the most part, Russians decided to extend the effort into today.

The roads around Mariupol are mined, which makes any attempt for the civilians to escape even more dangerous, and it's obviously not the Russians that mined them, since they still need to make it into the city.

So I ask you again - what this whole situation reminds you of?
It reminds me of when Slobodan Milosevic broadcasted his rallying cry to the Serbians to destroy and take back what they felt they were entitled to - like the entire countries of Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo. They too targeted and bombed hospitals, ambulances, among many other inhumane atrocities - their blood lust was almost as solid as Putin's is today.

The fact that you argue that the invading Russian soldiers just want to bomb the hell out of "just the troops sitting there" speaks volumes about your depravity and mental state. Why, by all means, let's please evacuate the civilians (but only to Russia, no-can-do if they actually want to flee to a place that doesn't see them as the enemy) and march them right into the red bear's salivating open mouth. And then let your invading army "pound the crap" out of those "Nazis" just sitting there.

What a pathetic joke. You have a very distorted sense of reality and humanity.
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Old 03-09-2022, 11:56 AM
 
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It reminds me of when Slobodan Milosevic broadcasted his rallying cry to the Serbians to destroy and take back what they felt they were entitled to - like the entire countries of Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo. They too targeted and bombed hospitals, ambulances, among many other inhumane atrocities - their blood lust was almost as solid as Putin's is today.

The fact that you argue that the invading Russian soldiers just want to bomb the hell out of "just the troops sitting there" speaks volumes about your depravity and mental state. Why, by all means, let's please evacuate the civilians (but only to Russia,
no-can-do if they actually want to flee to a place that doesn't see them as the enemy) and march them right into the red bear's salivating open mouth. And then let your invading army "pound the crap" out of those "Nazis" just sitting there.

What a pathetic joke. You have a very distorted sense of reality and humanity.

What are you even talking about?


Find Mariupol on the map, and look where Russia is.
They would be evacuated to the rest of their own - to Donetsk region.



The reason why Azov sitting in that city, ready to murder the local population, is because seven years ago Mariupol was one of those places that HATED the Natioanalist takeover.

The videos with killed/wounded civilians on the streets by Ukrainian military sent there by the new puppet government in Kiev were straight from Mariupol. So it's Nazi's ultimate revenge for insubordination.

Do you want me to post these videos here again?


Just as a proof of not my supposedly "depravity and mental state," but my knowledge of the subject, all while you push your usual drivel and regurgitated propaganda.

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Old 03-09-2022, 12:15 PM
 
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This is Mariupol back in 2014; "Turchinov, Yatzenuk, Yarosh, Avakov are Nazi criminals. They are terrorizing Donbass and plan genocide of our people."


All are the darlings of the new puppet regime in Kiev with other words.



That's what the first sign reads.

And the next one - "There will be no Bandera here."




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTDkuBHbSmI



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm6VRyXheGw&t=190s




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS-UmmZrXXU


It's all on the record.

Do you understand now why Russian/LDNR troops would want very much to evacuate civilians out of this particular city?

And why "Azov" would rather see them dead.
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Old 03-09-2022, 12:38 PM
 
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It reminds me of when Slobodan Milosevic broadcasted his rallying cry to the Serbians to destroy and take back what they felt they were entitled to - like the entire countries of Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo. They too targeted and bombed hospitals, ambulances, among many other inhumane atrocities - their blood lust was almost as solid as Putin's is today.

The fact that you argue that the invading Russian soldiers just want to bomb the hell out of "just the troops sitting there" speaks volumes about your depravity and mental state. Why, by all means, let's please evacuate the civilians (but only to Russia, no-can-do if they actually want to flee to a place that doesn't see them as the enemy) and march them right into the red bear's salivating open mouth. And then let your invading army "pound the crap" out of those "Nazis" just sitting there.

What a pathetic joke. You have a very distorted sense of reality and humanity.
Thank you. No normal person would think it is OK to let evacuees & refugees, only go to the enemy country.
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Old 03-09-2022, 12:40 PM
 
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Thank you. No normal person would think it is OK to let evacuees & refugees, only go to the enemy country.

Spreading more fake propaganda?

I thought so.
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Old 03-09-2022, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Canada
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And obviously, many more would prefer to flee to Russia, away from the shelled cities.
So when the Russians offer the "green corridors," part of which lead to Russia/Belorussia, ( which would prove THEIR point that they fight with the current Ukrainian government and not the civilians,) the Ukrainian Vice president I. Vereshuk calls this escape routs "immoral" and thus unacceptable and "not agreed upon" by Ukraine.

You can come to your own conclusion, that this Ukrainian government would rather see the civilians dead than making "immoral decision" of running to Russia.

From what I've heard yesterday, one rout was agreed upon, moving from.. the city of Sumi to Western Ukraine and then to Polish border, but the majority of 750 people that were taken there, were the foreigners ( the Indians I assume, that were so desperate to the point, that they were heading for the Russian border themselves.)

Mariupol is in the worst shape possible in this respect.

From what the few people that made it alive from there are saying, is that no one in town knows about the green corridors, that the bridges around the town are blown up, and the city authorities didn't tell anything to the civilians about the evacuation.

Apparently, it's *immoral* to save the lives of civilians ( and this includes children's lives, yes - the ones that Easthome screams about on every corner,) with the help of Russians, when the Nationalist battalions are "dying for Ukraine's freedom."

What does this reminds you of, can you tell me?



Mariupol is completely surrounded by Russian/LDNR troops from all sides.

Russians want to move civilians out of town, in order to attack the troops sitting there, and shelling them from the residential buildings. ( Hospitals, schools including.)


I keep on watching the situation , since after yesterday's attempt to evacuate people via "immoral routs" failed for the most part, Russians decided to extend the effort into today.

The roads around Mariupol are mined, which makes any attempt for the civilians to escape even more dangerous, and it's obviously not the Russians that mined them, since they still need to make it into the city.

So I ask you again - what this whole situation reminds you of?
Russians?
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Old 03-09-2022, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Canada
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The background of the conflict in terms of the origins of Ukrainians and Russians is only interesting as back story. The rest is gaslighting.

The reason the whole world turned against Russia to the extent that it has is because you don't need to know the history to know there's something wrong about one country invading another, in violation of international law, in broad daylight, so to speak.

We have eyes to see.
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Old 03-09-2022, 12:47 PM
 
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Spreading more fake propaganda?

I thought so.

Bots don't think too well.,
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Old 03-09-2022, 12:57 PM
 
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Bots don't think too well.,

"Bot" is the catch all word lately, convenient to those, that don't know anything beyond the regurgitated propaganda.
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