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Old 03-09-2022, 08:49 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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I assume you are Russian, because like any good Russian, virtually everything you say is false. US manufacturing output is higher than it's ever been, and I would guess that is true in other Westen nations as well. Western (and Japanese and South Korean) pharmaceutical, vaccine, genetic and medical device advances lead the world; computer software and hardware from these nations lead the world. For Russia, crude and refined oil and gas products make up 2/3 of their economy - because they do most things badly.
Grega is one of "our" Russians. He's right, in that US manufacturing is way down compared to the past, and is more niche-oriented, as your examples illustrate.
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Yes the few things the west still manufactures are of high quality, but that quality comes at a premium cost that the average westerner can’t even afford which is why western stores are flooded with cheap products from China and the like.
This is concerning. Not being able to afford their own manufactured goods is one sign of a 3rd World country. The US needs to strengthen its economy, so that its citizens can afford quality made-in-the-USA products. This isn't going to happen as long as corporations are allowed to replace US workers with foreign labor en masse, fight unionization, and pursue other counterproductive (except to their CEOs) practices..
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Old 03-09-2022, 09:19 AM
 
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Just read the wikipedia page on Ukraine or Galicia. Any source!

The Tatars or Mongols captured more Ukrainians for cannon fodder than the Russians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrain...en_Age_of_Kyiv

In western Ukraine:
Some venturing into and lying over ancient times to deny the obvious origins of Muscovy/Russia as a Mongol' vassal - a trusted tribute collector for the Golden Horde. Mongols are fathers of the Russian political tradition rooted in treachery, barbarity and disregard for human life. Mongols provided the nucleus and Russians wrapped it all in the layers of myths, borrowings and delusions.

Just like in the street racket, Muscovites grew their racketeering operations by promising the Big Mongol Boss to streamline racketeering/tribute operations, just like in the street racket Muscovite gang challenged the big Mongol Boss after 300 years +/- of operating and bullying the neighborhood under its franchise authority. Genetically speaking Russians are russified finno ugric tribes, tartar, etc., russification of Ukrainians in the past centuries added some slavic blood to that poisonous mix.

Crimean Tartars came to prominence way after Mongols sired a bastard Muscovite child, and effectively Muscovites and Crimean Tartars are cousins sired by the same Mongol father. Nevertheless, Crimean Tartars burned Moscow a few times and took plenty Muscovites as prisoners. Taking prisoners and vassalage are two different things, don't play stupid. Russian/Soviet Empire committed genuine genocide of the Crimean Tartars. Adolf and his final solution on Jews does not come anywhere near Russian genocide of Tartars as far as population reduction.

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Old 03-09-2022, 09:30 AM
 
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Well, the big news of course is that the US will stop buying oil and gas from Putinstan, but McDonalds, Starbucks and Coca Cola said they would stop sales there as well.
Great. Instead, the USA will buy oil and gas from Iran, Saudi Arabia and Venezuela. How's that for an improvement. Let's be more depended upon on the country that produced the 9/11 highjacks.

McDonalds, Starbucks and Coca Cola are no loss to anyone.
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Old 03-09-2022, 09:39 AM
 
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Some venturing into and lying over ancient times to deny the obvious origins of Muscovy/Russia as a Mongol' vassal - a trusted tribute collector for the Golden Horde. Mongols are fathers of the Russian political tradition rooted in treachery, barbarity and disregard for human life. Mongols provided the nucleus and Russians wrapped it all in the layers of myths, borrowings and delusions.

Just like in the street racket, Muscovites grew their racketeering operations by promising the Big Mongol Boss to streamline racketeering/tribute operations, just like in the street racket Muscovite gang challenged the big Mongol Boss after 300 years +/- of operating and bullying the neighborhood under its franchise authority. Genetically speaking Russians are russified finno ugric tribes, tartar, etc., russification of Ukrainians in the past centuries added some slavic blood to that poisonous mix.

Crimean Tartars came to prominence way after Mongols sired a bastard Muscovite child, and effectively Muscovites and Crimean Tartars are cousins sired by the same Mongol father. Nevertheless, Crimean Tartars burned Moscow a few times and took plenty Muscovites as prisoners. Taking prisoners and vassalage are two different things, don't play stupid. Russian/Soviet Empire committed genuine genocide of the Crimean Tartars. Adolf and his final solution on Jews does not come anywhere near Russian genocide of Tartars as far as population reduction.
When I was in Poland I brought a little tartar doll sitting on a horse. It's five inches high and really cute. St. Mary's in Kraków plays the trumpet every hour to remain us of the bugler who lost his life while warning the city of the mongols advance.

The nonsense you wrote is just nonsense. Western Ukraine including Lviv was under control of the Austro-Hungarian Empire for centuries.
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Old 03-09-2022, 09:44 AM
 
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Somehow, it doesn't make me happy, when I am passing by the local gas stations.

And I suspect I am not the only one.

The more I am listening to Tucker Carlson, the more I have a question - does he have a political party for normal people?
If not, may be it's about time to start one.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r26dUDdNQo&t=6s
You bet me to posting this.

We are all laughing about the fall of the Russian economy. Remember he who laughs last, laughs best.

We are knowingly destroying our own economy at the same time.

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One of those independent-in-name-only territories that only Russia and a few other rogue nations recognize, you mean?
Those in name only territories voted for independence eight years ago. Eight Years ago! There has been a civil war since the vote. What's the difference from the USA breaking away from England and the Donbas region breaking away from Ukraine?
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Old 03-09-2022, 09:49 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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McDonalds, Starbucks and Coca Cola are no loss to anyone.
Chemical weapons in their own right that dovetail well with certain laboratory viruses.

Cabbage and turnips seem more appealing after all, and certainly healthier.

While we’re on the topic, we hear how Ukraine is a great producer and exporter of wheat. What kind of wheat? Is it comparable to durum semolina?

And what about Ukrainian bread? How good is it, compared to, say, bread from southern European regions and countries like Sicily or Portugal? Or even compared to Hungary?

Are there still real neighborhood bakeries where they actually make real bread on premises with real flour, water, yeast, and salt? Or do most people buy in stores or in fake bakeries that receive by truck fake bread made in factories far away? How common is it for people to buy flour in bulk and make their own real bread at home? Does Ukraine produce its own pasta? Does Barrilla operate in the country?

Is olive oil available in stores? Is it expensive for the average family?

Do the rivers have trout or salmon?

Is the water pure?
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Old 03-09-2022, 09:49 AM
 
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When I was in Poland I brought a little tartar doll sitting on a horse. It's five inches high and really cute. St. Mary's in Kraków plays the trumpet every hour to remain us of the bugler who lost his life while warning the city of the mongols advance.

The nonsense you wrote is just nonsense. Western Ukraine including Lviv was under control of the Austro-Hungarian Empire for centuries.
Common you are a russian nazi propagandist, I doubt you have anything polish about you. Your lying and denying the obvious historical facts gets old, but hey, Russians never cared much about the truth, just keep the flow of bs flowing and something will stuck to a few feeble minds, the harder the flow of bs the more feeble minds it affects. Russian propaganda 101. Poland still has a tartar minority, they are descendants of the tartar troops serving Polish kings.
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Old 03-09-2022, 09:53 AM
 
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Some venturing into and lying over ancient times to deny the obvious origins of Muscovy/Russia as a Mongol' vassal - trusted tribute collector for the Golden Horde. Mongols are fathers of the Russian political tradition resting on a foundation of treachery, barbarity and disregard for human life. Mongols provided the nucleus and Russians wrapped it all in the layers of myths, borrowings and delusions.

Just like in the street racket, Muscovites grew their racketeering operations by promising the Big Mongol Boss to streamline racketeering/tribute operations, just like in the street racket Muscovite gang challenged the big Mongol Boss after 300 years +/- of operating and bullying the neighborhood under its franchise authority. Genetically speaking Russians are russified finno ugric tribes, tartar, etc., russification of Ukrainians in the past centuries added some slavic blood to that poisonous mix.

Crimean Tartars came to prominence way after Mongols sired a bastard Muscovite child, and effectively Muscovites and Crimean Tartars are cousins sired by the same Mongol father. Nevertheless, Crimean Tartars burned Moscow a few times and took plenty Muscovites as prisoners. Taking prisoners and vassalage are two different things, don't play stupid. Russian/Soviet Empire committed genuine genocide of the Crimean Tartars. Adolf and his final solution on Jews does not come anywhere near Russian genocide of Tartars as far as population reduction.

Oh no, not this Ukrainian propaganda garbage again.

See, it's not as innocent as some people imagine that "Ukrainian nationalism is all about just love for their country" - far away from it.

Just as back in Nazi Germany, this Nationalist Ukrainian state has its own ideological department, which determines what is "historically correct," and what should be changed and re-written to serve the "National interests," what children should be taught in schools ( and not only) and what the mass media should promote.

And the basis of this ideology (as I already said before) is specifically hatred to Russia.


The whole Ukrainian nationalist ideology is based on idea that Ukraine and Russia don't have shared roots, that modern Russia is some alien "Mongol state" that STOLE "true Russian identity" from poor Ukraine, and what the world knows now as "Russia" is actually "Ukraine," and should be recognized as such globally.
Ukraine is a "true Rus" state, while Russia is some "Moscovia," some evil creation that should be destroyed in order for the world to be happy at last. ( The White Western world at that, don't make any mistake here, and the Nationalist Ukraine is on the front lines of this heroic struggle with "mongoloid Moscow.")

Not only that, but while these so-called "true Russians" are searching for their "old spiritual roots," while claiming that their Nazi tattoos are nothing but "old pagan runes," and murdering those damn Donbassians that don't believe in all this garbage right and left, the West is cheering the "free and democratic state," that Ukraine supposedly is.

But throughout all this thread I refer to Ukrainian nationalists as the bleating idiots precisely for the reasons described above.
Because I am well familiar with their ideology department, and what it promotes in essence.

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Old 03-09-2022, 09:54 AM
 
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You
Those in name only territories voted for independence eight years ago. Eight Years ago! There has been a civil war since the vote. What's the difference from the USA breaking away from England and the Donbas region breaking away from Ukraine?
Russian nazis should know the difference but they choose to play stupid. Then they double down on playing stupid until playing stupid creates alt. reality of its own in some feeble minds. Russian propaganda 101.
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Old 03-09-2022, 10:01 AM
 
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Oh no, not this Ukrainian propaganda garbage again.

See, it's not as innocent as some people imagine that "Ukrainian nationalism is all about just love for their country" - far away from it.

Just as back in Nazi Germany, this Nationalist Ukrainian state has its own ideological department, which determines what is "historically correct," and what should be changed and re-written to serve the "National interests," what children should be taught in schools ( and not only) and what the mass media should promote.

And the basis of this ideology (as I already said before) is specifically hatred to Russia.


The whole Ukrainian nationalist ideology is based on idea that Ukraine and Russia don't have shared roots, that modern Russia is some alien "Mongol state" that STOLE "true Russian identity" from Ukraine, and what the world knows now as "Russia" should be actually "Ukraine."
Ukraine is a "true Rus" state, while Russia is some "Moscovia," some evil creation that should be destroyed in order for the world to be happy at last. ( The White Western world at that, don't make any mistake here, and the Nationalist Ukraine is on the front lines of this heroic struggle with "mongoloid Moscow.")

Not only that, but while these so-called "true Russians" are searching for their "old spiritual roots," while claiming that their Nazi tattoos are nothing but "old pagan runes," and murdering those damn Donbassians right and left that don't believe in all this garbage, the West is cheering the "free and democratic state," that Ukraine supposedly is.

But throughout all this thread I refer to Ukrainian nationalist as the "bleating idiots" precisely for the reasons described above.
Because I am well familiar with their ideology department, and what it promotes in essence.
that's some serious Russian nazi drivel unrelated to my text. Chill out, do not foam with more lies at your mouth, you sound unhinged. Nobody buys that bs, especially when Russian nazi state attacks and kills people in the name of the final solution by means of ethnocide and murder while parroting German nazis 1 to 1.

Btw 100% of Ukrainians just want to be left alone by your kind, they do not care about bs history and mythology the Russians come up with for as long as Russia stops trying to destroy and to colonize Ukraine. Sheer megalomania of the Russian historical fantasies is a subject in itself, and a case for the psychiatric studies.
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