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Latest news from the "rebels," and since the reports of killing of 100 people in Schastie become rather persistent, ( although somewhat controversial,) I am waiting to hear more from Western media on what kind of death it was - civilians, militiamen or who exactly.
edit: more info on the tanks. They were apparently left behind on Crimea, and were supposed to be shipped to Russia, but they didn't want them and gave them to the separatists. Russia has already admitted they mingle actively in the crisis in e Ukraine, so no surprised here. But as a reminder, tanks can create a lot of damage and the russophiles and terrorists have no reason to play the victim. The separatists are equally involved in the killing.
Now, you really believe that Russia, of all people (giving them way too much credit), captured some T-64 tanks, moved them all the way from Crimea back to Russia, then drove them all the way back to east Ukraine? Does this even sound logical, even in the Russian sense? Because this is what western media is reporting, that these tanks actually went all the way to Rostov, then back to east Ukraine, it is absurd to even believe that.
I would actually believe your post stating Russia handed them over from Crimea, before I believed that they traveled all the way to Rostov, then back to Ukraine.
Also, how in the heck did they get them out of Crimea? With all of the intel going on, no one noticed three tanks leaving? They leave by boat? Why would there not be monitoring of boat shipments, loading/off loading? By land? Air? Do they have any idea? Actually, I believe intel would not pick this up, intel community was surprised by the entire thing. If the intel community cannot detect thousands of troops ready to take Crimea, I doubt they are going to notice three tanks.
Too me it sounds like some very far fetched BS to explain the obvious, that these tanks and other heavy weapons were seized from military bases in the east. Has not anyone wonder what is up with the military bases and equipment in east Ukraine?
'We will write our own history books and our teachers will teach 'our history' not 'theirs'.
'They( the Ukrainian govt) won't exist here nor will their flags. We are taking guns in our hands now. If we run out of guns we will chew them with our teeth'.
Well it looks as if we have that great Orwellian atmosphere where the language spoken is limited
and shows a vacuousness of ideas that try to drive at the crux of issues. The language then is used to distort and project a hatred based on fear. Some of those in the east now seek to rewrite history which suggests the propaganda being fed to them is working. They sure must believe it....to the country's detriment.
'We will write our own history books and our teachers will teach 'our history' not 'theirs'.
'They( the Ukrainian govt) won't exist here nor will their flags. We are taking guns in our hands now. If we run out of guns we will chew them with our teeth'.
Well it looks as if we have that great Orwellian atmosphere where the language spoken is limited
and shows a vacuousness of ideas that try to drive at the crux of issues.
Nothing "Orwellian" here.
You simply need to know the background/history of both regions.
Eastern Ukrainians don't want to be taught that Bandera was true Ukrainian hero, who was *liberating Ukraine,* while cooperating with Hitler. They don't want to be taught that Ukraine has no historic connection to Russia and Russia ( and Russians) are the ultimate source of misery for Ukraine.
They don't want their children to be taught in schools that SS Galitcia division were heroes, while their own grand-fathers were "wrong" while fighting Hitler during the WWII.
Re: your expected response. I will suggest that Russia has moved the goal-posts in international and fraternal relations between peoples. They've awakened the 'dragon' by lighting the spark to begin the fire. With their behavior they have unleashed the pathologicals on both sides dividing the contestants possibly irrevocably.
I am not sure if the fight we see would have erupted anyway between Russia and Ukraine if not for the consequences of annexation but it is quite Russia is indeed complicit in the driving to the surface the poisons which has lied beneath the land and people in these past decades. The time was right for Mr. Putin to be the necromancer of Central Europe calling up the apparent undead spirits. Setting the stage for future myth? I don't know but see? They already are writing its history for him and the cause.
The "subhuman" comment doesn't surprise me. What else can be expected from a leader of a country with old ties to the Insurgent Army. Especially now in times of conflict.
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You know we're a couple of decades away from that calamity. It's tough to see how the new generation appears to view and use its history. How it's forgotten. They reall know not the consequences of what they do.
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