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No, looks like Putin didn't approve the "peace plan" suggested by Poroshenko, but I'll be looking for more details.
P.S. OK, this is what I read here more or less...
"Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs denied that it gave the approval to Poroshenko's "peace plan."
"We were surprised to learn the commentaries made by Ukrainian ministry regarding this conversation, that state that the ministers support the plan of Ukrainian president, making stress on "effective control of Ukrainian border." First of all, it doesn't correlate to reality of things; it's difficult to support something that doesn't yet exist.
Also, the Russian Ministry underlined that during the telephone conversation with his Ukrainian colleague, Lavrov called on Kiev to "negotiate with those, who really control situation in the South-East of the country."
Cunning plan is that the first item is "To ensure the safety of all participants in the negotiations." But Poroshenko says that he does not think the leaders of the rebel republics legitimate and he will not negotiate with them. In fact, this plan is an ultimatum. Rebels are given a chance to lay down their arms and surrender. At the same time, Ukraine actively regroup forces.
If you think that people of Donbass are afraid Russians mercenaries, see the story of the Ukrainian TV (Russian language)
Refugees in Kharkov say they accuse Ukraine of murders, that their husbands are fighting there and they want to turn the Donbass in Russia. Ukrainian reporter accuses them, that they have arrived in Kharkiv. According to her, they had to go to Russia.
to put everything in perspective here : I live in a small town close to Paris (how many miles from Ukraine? it's far, but not that far, 3 hours flight maybe).
The main street is adorned with Brazilian flags. At the bakery, the baker is dressed in a yellowgreen uniform with cap (the colors of Brazilian supporters). I believe that if I were to question people in the street, most of them, in spite of Internet and cable tv, wouldn't even know there is a war raging on in Eastern Ukraine. We could as well be in Brazil (or in Portugal, there many Portuguese flags too since there are many Portuguese immigrants here).
Talk of "Europe"! what a sham...
to put everything in perspective here : I live in a small town close to Paris (how many miles from Ukraine? it's far, but not that far, 3 hours flight maybe).
The main street is adorned with Brazilian flags. At the bakery, the baker is dressed in a yellowgreen uniform with cap (the colors of Brazilian supporters). I believe that if I were to question people in the street, most of them, in spite of Internet and cable tv, wouldn't even know there is a war raging on in Eastern Ukraine. We could as well be in Brazil (or in Portugal, there many Portuguese flags too since there are many Portuguese immigrants here).
Talk of "Europe"! what a sham...
Well what would you like to see? The hammer and sickle all around the place? Lenin statues?
Well what would you like to see? The hammer and sickle all around the place? Lenin statues? No, of course. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying that the "europe" in whose name people are slaughtered in the Donbass right now doesn't even exist in the mind of people here. The Portuguese here , even, are the grandchildren of the workers who came here en masse in the sixties, when Portugal was a (benign) dictatorship and not even a member of the EU.
Fifty years later although they have the French nationality, who are they supporting ? the Portuguese team. They don't feel full-fledged French. And France never bombed Portugal and has never been at war with Portugal since Napoleon I (it was a long time ago). And you believe one minute that the people of the Donbass will ever feel Ukrainian after what Ukraine has done to them? they would be masochistic then.
Well what would you like to see? The hammer and sickle all around the place? Lenin statues? No, of course. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying that the "europe" in whose name people are slaughtered in the Donbass right now doesn't even exist in the mind of people here. The Portuguese here , even, are the grandchildren of the workers who came here en masse in the sixties, when Portugal was a (benign) dictatorship and not even a member of the EU.
Fifty years later although they have the French nationality, who are they supporting ? the Portuguese team. They don't feel full-fledged French. And France never bombed Portugal and has never been at war with Portugal since Napoleon I (it was a long time ago). And you believe one minute that the people of the Donbass will ever feel Ukrainian after what Ukraine has done to them? they would be masochistic then.
They themselves were the ones storming government buildings, police stations etc. screaming rassija rassija! The Dumbass region had it coming. Savages are given a taste of their own medicine.
They themselves were the ones storming government buildings, police stations etc. screaming rassija rassija! The Dumbass region had it coming. Savages are given a taste of their own medicine.
Maybe. Still it doesn't answer my question : after all that bad blood on both sides, explain to me how they can still live in the same country in the future ? never heard of the Israelian-Palestinian conflict ? there are similarities here.
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