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Old 06-26-2014, 03:30 AM
 
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Imagine what would happen when Strelkov says that the combatants are made up of 40% Russians... I don't believe **** what that weasel says... Heck, even he himself is Russian...
It's only official source we have about presence of russian volunteers in Donbass. You can listen ukrainian media of course but they tell about arrest of tens of russian diversionists a day with no evidences, so ukrainian media are no more than a toilet paper.
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Old 06-26-2014, 03:45 AM
 
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Mothers of ukrainian soldiers want their children to go back home. Unfortunately, they say nothing about women and their children killed in Donbass by ukrainian army.
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Old 06-26-2014, 04:00 AM
 
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Imagine what would happen when Strelkov says that the combatants are made up of 40% Russians... I don't believe **** what that weasel says... Heck, even he himself is Russian...
If the border guards open the border completely, volunteers from Russia will be 2-3 times more. Border guards only pass those who have military experience or military training.
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Old 06-26-2014, 06:40 AM
 
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Default Let us more deaths! More!

Through the death and suffering of many people is achieved cleansing of the people. More death and suffering, the greater the value of the atonement for United country © A. Avakov, the Minister of internal Affairs of Ukraine
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Old 06-26-2014, 06:53 AM
 
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Through the death and suffering of many people is achieved cleansing of the people. More death and suffering, the greater the value of the atonement for United country © A. Avakov, the Minister of internal Affairs of Ukraine
And of course his words aren't about his death but about death of "common" people.
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Old 06-26-2014, 07:18 AM
 
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Through the death and suffering of many people is achieved cleansing of the people. More death and suffering, the greater the value of the atonement for United country © A. Avakov, the Minister of internal Affairs of Ukraine
"Don't believe every quote you read on the internet, because I totally didn't say that."
- Albert Einstein
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Old 06-26-2014, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Yeah, yeah, yeah...
Russia has been planning to "exterminate all the minorities - to wipe out their language, culture, population" - you name it, for quite some time already, like few centuries or so. The native people, the Finns, the Tatars, the Chechens and so on.
Yet amazingly enough everyone is still around, still speak their language and even still reside on their territories.
So go figure.
No, because the russification process was never finished, or put even in real long-time action. Never blaimed anyone (Russia). And the process ended with ousting of the Czar.

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I think that this situation is similar to what is happening in the Donbass? Or not?
Right now it's impossible to know the truth what's exactly happening. Putin changes his mind every day, the separatists are all over the place, and the news are contradicting each other all the time.

But no, believing that there's an ethnic cleansing or genocide in Eastern Ukraine is just false. That would destroy Ukraine's dwingling reputation for decades and everyone would be Haagued in a month.
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Old 06-26-2014, 09:31 AM
 
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And of course his words aren't about his death but about death of "common" people.
So of course
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Old 06-26-2014, 09:46 AM
 
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Foreign combatants involved in internal conflicts is not unusual, in fact it is common if not universal.
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Old 06-26-2014, 09:48 AM
 
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No, because the russification process was never finished, or put even in real
long-time action
I always had the feeeling that it was a 'process' and that it would be brought about 'naturally'. But I'd say one thing that is glaringly obvious is that there are some who believe in the use of force to implement lets say situations that would constantly press for a more "Russian' outlook. The more that happens the more 'right sector' pushes back. There is fear all over the place.
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