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Old 03-29-2015, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Vik
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C'mon guys. How many times have we seen Vikingens narrative? It's all the same from oh so many, he doesn't have anything new to contribute, he doesn't know anything about the subject other than generalities and is going to just waste time with blithering nonsense.
And that`s your best arguments!! You must do better than that if you are going to make employee of the month..
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Old 03-29-2015, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Greater NYC, USA
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C'mon guys. How many times have we seen Vikingens narrative? It's all the same from oh so many, he doesn't have anything new to contribute, he doesn't know anything about the subject other than generalities and is going to just waste time with blithering nonsense.
I think he is a troll. He engages in personal attacks but says nothing of subsequence.
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Old 03-29-2015, 02:57 PM
 
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Nope has nothing to contribute. Another one on the list.

People are fleeing Ukraine looking for work, most of them to Russia. These are talented people too.

http://dt.ua/ECONOMICS/ukrayinci-shu...m-168183_.html

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According to a study HeadHunter, abroad would like to work 80% of workers in middle and senior managers. If half of them (41%) named as the cause of tense political situation, the desire to provide their children a stable future and a small salary in Ukraine. This year, the fastest outflow of specialists in Ukraine will continue.
Більше читайте тут: http://dt.ua/ECONOMICS/ukrayinci-shu...m-168183_.html
I also heard that Antonov has failed in it's contractual obligations to India concerning their fleet of military air transports. No parts and no aircraft have been delivered. India is talking to Ilyushin and China about rectifying the situation.

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Old 03-29-2015, 03:19 PM
 
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Re: erasure's vid...

Very good. They are rockers! A nice homage to your friend. I like that Sgt. Pepper pix in there too...;-)..I see how perhaps we could agree that music (as well as lit and art) provides a touchstone between different cultures. Let us rock on!
Yes Travric - these are well-known musicians/some other cultural figures - part of Russian "intelligentsia" -a class that's deeply European in nature, and which is very much divided now, in terms of Ukrainian events, Putin et al. It was rather unexpected to see two well-known musicians in this video who in real life are on different sides of barricades, and publicly so, to come together to "pay homage" to my friend. He was a person everyone liked, ( it was impossible not to like him,) but that's not the point I'm trying to make here. As I was trying to explain before, the anti-American sentiment is sky high in Russia, more so than it was ever during Soviet times. And I mean on personal level, because during the Cold war, although the propaganda was doing its job, the average Russian has never had to fight Americans, he never saw them in flesh and blood, and therefore didn't experience any personal animosity, vs, say, Germans back in the day. And speaking about intelligentsia - it was quite pro-Western, ( pro-American included,) for the most part. It's not a case any longer - the whole "Ukrainian affair" is taken very personally, particularly that it revived the ghost of the nineties, direct American involvement in internal Russian affairs that was very destructive for Russia, plus the reminder of Brzezinski's doctrine, directed at dismembering Russia and breaking her apart.
So as I've said, there is something very different in the air this time around, when it comes to the attitude of Russians towards the US.

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And back to Uncle Joe. Points taken. The thing I'd say that is most impressive with Stalin is the fact that he knew where everything ran from and that was from the the 'state'. It was the state that held power. And it had to be very strong . And he had to be as its head. So in that it appears that has been consistently handed down to his successors and it seems that they way they like it. It has its positives and negatives like all political structures. I'd say when things go 'good', when bad it can be 'very very bad' as we've seen in Stalin's stewardship of the Russian state.
But Stalin is not unique in this respect in Russian history; if you look back, you see the list of other leaders in Russia that are coming from the same mold. As Scrat I think mentioned before - "Russians make **** poor slaves," unlike Anglo-Saxons, who basically agree to serve materialistic ideas. Russians are not unanimously agree on practically anything, ( even less so on serving materialistic ideas,) except for the times when their nation is in danger. That's probably when most of them come together, and even then part of them still hopes to receive help from elsewhere. If anything, Stalin was intelligent enough to understand all the peculiarities of Russia ( as I've mentioned before Saltykov-Shchedrin was one of his favorite writers,) and the role that Russian state played in history. After all, the words "Russia has only two allies - her army and her fleet," didn't belong to Stalin, they belonged to someone before him, namely Alexander III, dubbed as a "peace-maker."
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Old 03-29-2015, 03:24 PM
 
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Ha, you just beat me to it.

Now we know how much the trolls earn (45000 rubles per month - or 65000 for trolls who are fluent in English) and what their daily comment quota is (135).
Did you ever ask yourself why this so-called "trolling" works? Obviously money alone can't help the case.
If you didn't ask yourself such question, I'll tell you why it's a case.
Because the days of American narrative of "truth and justice" are over. It's not "one and only truth" out there, and American gov. itself was the one that gave plenty of cards by its actions for Putin and his supporters to play with.
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Old 03-29-2015, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Greater NYC, USA
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Nope has nothing to contribute. Another one on the list.

People are fleeing Ukraine looking for work, most of them to Russia. These are talented people too.

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I also heard that Antonov has failed in it's contractual obligations to India concerning their fleet of military air transports. No parts and no aircraft have been delivered. India is talking to Ilyushin and China about rectifying the situation.
Internal to Ukraine oligarch war for power, backed by international funding has destroyed Ukrainian's already struggling economy.

Average Ukrainian does not want to live in Ukraine, they prefer to immigrate to developed nations where some-of them like wave the ukrainian flag.
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Old 03-29-2015, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Greater NYC, USA
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Nobody pays me to promote Obama as the worlds savor. Heck, I don`t even like Obama. THATS the differance.

If Putin is so desperate that he needs to pay teenagers in St. Petersburg to troll the internet - then he has a problem. But Putin is desperate - and dangerous.

I`ve been to Russia, and I know how deep "eastern" opinions stick.
That is allot scarier then being paid to troll. I don't think any-one here is a pad troll, but some do act like it.

Obama's involvement in Ukraine, killed allot of people and spread allot of misery.
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Old 03-29-2015, 03:52 PM
 
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That is allot scarier then being paid to troll. I don't think any-one here is a pad troll, but some do act like it.

Obama's involvement in Ukraine, killed allot of people and spread allot of misery.
A road to hell is paved with best intentions.
This should work as a motto for the whole "Ukrainian affair."
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Old 03-29-2015, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Greater NYC, USA
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A road to hell is paved with best intentions.
This should work as a motto for the whole "Ukrainian affair."
Hard to believe he THAT incompetent.
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Old 03-29-2015, 04:54 PM
 
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Ukraine managed to lose 5 AN-24 transports of 40 Antonov was supposed to refurbish.


Ukraine Conflict Stalls Indian AF Upgrades

How in the hell do you "lose" 5 airplanes?
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