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Yes, I immediately remembered your posts when I read this.
I find it difficult to evaluate this, since this is only my reflection of American books and films. But I proceed from the following things:
1. Americans believe that they won the Cold War (perhaps they are right, this is another matter).
2. Americans were really afraid of the communists, especially when the Soviet Union was ahead of the space race (early 60s).
From this we can conclude: communism is the enemy that was defeated.
I would not vote for an ideas of an enemies that we defeated.
America was afraid of communism, because it would have undermined its business structure. That is to say, that private enterprise and multinational corporations would have lost out big time if communism (or socialism to be precise) would have gotten the upper hand.
The space race was just one battlefield during the Cold War.
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No, no, no. I think they DON'T want to be equal. Some want benefits and be offended, some want the American dream and confidence in the indestructible proper structure of American society (which has been getting worse lately because of these loafers), some have money and power and don't want to share it. And only an iron skating rink can make them equal and remove the existing differences. And probably it will be skating rink of an authoritarian society. Maybe this will happen in a year, maybe in 100 years, I don’t know.
That largely depends on where you find yourself in society. If you are near the bottom doing menial jobs, then equality is very important to you. There’s a reason why socialist revolutions took place in countries that had a large underprivileged population. That’s what happened in Russia after WW1.
Equality is a double edged sword. On one hand, having social mobility is at the core of the American Dream. If you work hard, you can achieve anything and can relocate at will. In practical terms, full equality wouldn’t be beneficial to capitalism either, as it slashed the profit margin of CEO’s.
America is a country of high highs and low lows. If you are highly educated and have an entrepreneurial spirit, it’s the best place to be. If you are struggling financially, you’re better off in almost any other Western Country as they tend to have better social security.
Despite all of this, if recent developments are anything to go by, the US is gradually moving towards the left, even if only at an incremental pace. Amongst the youth, there is a certain desire to try and emulate successful aspects of European countries.
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I don't think they understand all the nuances over there ( when it comes to the "different shades of "left.").
You need to remember that in Russia the ultra-right forces are in charge of the country, ( disguising themselves as "moderates," if not downright "the left.")
And they do everything possible to muddy the picture, when it comes to Western "left."
They love to underline only its NEGATIVE sides, knowing what buttons to push in Russians ( specifically in Russians, since Russians have SOCIALLY CONSERVATIVE culture.)
And that's why I ask Maxim specific questions every time we proceed to the next step.
I kinda see this kind of perception of situation in Russia, and before I will proceed with further comments, explain to me who are exactly the "loafers" here.
Then I can give the feedback ( share my own thoughts) on what I see is happening in the country.
In my understanding, loafers are the black population of poor areas who do not want to study and work. I think that soft leftist ideas will not solve the problems of American society. Most likely they will only aggravate the stratification of society, because living without work will become even more comfortable. Only a tough authoritarian regime can make these masses of people change their lifestyle and become more one-sided with the working part of society, but this is hardly suitable for the mentality of Americans who left for another continent for freedom. The problem seems to be difficult to solve.
Despite all of this, if recent developments are anything to go by, the US is gradually moving towards the left, even if only at an incremental pace. Amongst the youth, there is a certain desire to try and emulate successful aspects of European countries.
This is an interesting trend, but in my understanding, this can aggravate the stratification of society (an increasing number of people will live on social benefits).
OFFICER MATTHEW STONE THIS IS THE TRUE HERO OF AMERICA!
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The next police officer overstepped his authority. Officer Matthew Stone from San Antonio, Texas (this photo when stone served in the new York police Department) when meeting with "peaceful protesters" behaved not only "extremely defiant”, but also "brazen, cynical" and uncompromisingly prevented another "outburst of the soul of peaceful protesters".
First, he and his fellow police officers stopped an attempt to remove a huge TV from electronics supermarket, and returned this TV back to the store.
Second, officer Stone and his colleagues prevented "peaceful unfortunate protesters" from entering the jewelry store through a window.
And third, he flatly refused to get down on his knees in front of "peaceful unfortunate protesters".
When "peaceful protesters" armed with baseball bits, nunchucks and knives, as befits "unfortunate peaceful protesters" with obscenities and threats demanded that officer stone and his colleagues kneel and hide their weapons, officer Stone said: "I will never kneel before the scum-looters, bandits and scum who dishonor my country and abuse ordinary citizens! And, if any of you, he turned to his fellow police officers now get down on your knees in front of these bandits - I don't know you!"
Of course, neither officer Stone nor his five colleagues got down on their knees in front of this scum, which simply infuriated the "peaceful protesters".
Stone continued: "If you come within twenty meters of me and my colleagues, I will open fire to kill! I don't care what the consequences are. Prison doesn't scare me. But while I'm wearing a police uniform, I won't allow any scum to wreak havoc and engage in looting" He fired twice into the air.
And this impudence and cynicism "horrible police" acted upon "peaceful protesters" sobering, literally in a matter of seconds they ran...
And the owners of the store where the officer Stone and his colleagues prevented the looting from the "peaceful protesters", promised a cash prize stone and the COP who was with him and did not smear any official authority, nor his honor, and acted according to the law and dignity.
San Antonio officer Matthew Stone is a true American Hero and a man to look up to!
Sorry to disappoint you guys but the riots and looting ended a week ago. Its just protests now and they are shrinking every day. I know you desperately want to believe America is falling apart but instead we are getting back to dealing with with the virus situation, the upcoming election and yes, some reforms in the police as well as getting rid of some old monuments to traitors.
Meanwhile in Russia Putin has reappeared! Just in time to get ready for his referendum where the authorities are paying people to vote. I'm not making it up, they justified it as a way to stimulate the economy.
In my understanding, loafers are the black population of poor areas who do not want to study and work. I think that soft leftist ideas will not solve the problems of American society. Most likely they will only aggravate the stratification of society, because living without work will become even more comfortable. Only a tough authoritarian regime can make these masses of people change their lifestyle and become more one-sided with the working part of society, but this is hardly suitable for the mentality of Americans who left for another continent for freedom. The problem seems to be difficult to solve.
These areas they live in don't have jobs, but in order to find job, you need to have a car, which they don't have either.
The system of education in American public schools is set in such way, that it gives education only to children whose parents are already educated. If the parents are not educated, their children will remain uneducated as well.
So as you can see, even if you DO want to to "study and work" - you are still trapped in those hell-holes known as "Black ghettos" in America.
So it's a two-way street, and even if the complaints about gangsters and "no-go zones" are very real and just in US, the grievances of the Blacks and their accusations of racism in America are very just too.
So in many ways your guess that it takes "authoritarian regime" to solve their problems is close to truth - they need Soviet type of schools and Russian type of cities, (that are built totally differently comparably to American cities,) with no car dependency in mind.
But WHITE America wouldn't want that, so what works for White America, doesn't work for Black America and the other way around.
So yes, racial problem is big in America, and second major problem is quote unquote "women emancipation," for which America is not equipped, being the capitalist society as it is.
So even when Democrats were trying to steal ideas from Russia, they are not working out in the long run anyway.
And that's where the dead end is, alas.
These areas they live in don't have jobs, but in order to find job, you need to have a car, which they don't have either.
The system of education in American public schools is set in such way, that it gives education only to children whose parents are already educated. If the parents are not educated, their children will remain uneducated as well.
So as you can see, even if you DO want to to "study and work" - you are still trapped in those hell-holes known as "Black ghettos" in America.
So it's a two-way street, and even if the complaints about gangsters and "no-go zones" are very real and just in US, the grievances of the Blacks and their accusations of racism in America are very just too.
So in many ways your guess that it takes "authoritarian regime" to solve their problems is close to truth - they need Soviet type of schools and Russian type of cities, (that are built totally differently comparably to American cities,) with no car dependency in mind.
But WHITE America wouldn't want that, so what works for White America, doesn't work for Black America and the other way around.
So yes, racial problem is big in America, and second major problem is quote unquote "women emancipation," for which America is not equipped, being the capitalist society as it is.
So even when Democrats were trying to steal ideas from Russia, they are not working out in the long run anyway.
And that's where the dead end is, alas.
Thanks for your reply Erasure, it's very easy to say to pull your self up by your bootstraps but it's whole other thing when there are no bootstraps to pull your self up with. Also although the back community is the symbolic face of poverty in the US, they are certainly not uniquely in that situation, there are plenty of white communities, often times called white trash/red neck, cracker, etc. who find themselves in similar situation.
Thanks for your reply Erasure, it's very easy to say to pull your self up by your bootstraps but it's whole other thing when there are no bootstraps to pull your self up with. Also although the back community is the symbolic face of poverty in the US, they are certainly not uniquely in that situation, there are plenty of white communities, often times called white trash/red neck, cracker, etc. who find themselves in similar situation.
Of course Grega, but here I have to repeat the same thing that I've said on "Politics" forum - it's easier to make it from the "trailer parks" to the mainstream life, than from Black ghetto to the mainstream life, just because of your skin color alone.
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