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The price of loaded .410 shells being higher than bigger gauges has always seemed odd to me. I can load .410 for *less* than bigger gauges unless I'm getting gouged on the wad. Uses the same primer, different powders but less of it, and less shot than bigger gauges. I guess the volume on 12 gauge helps keep the cost down. Maybe .410 is more difficult to load on the factory equipment, takes more worker involvement, has to run slower, something like that - not sure, just guessing here.
Now 25-06 ammo being scarce, I can understand that as it ain't a big seller. The ammo that I see on the shelf in plentiful supply is .308 and .223. Even 30-06 is not common. And the 308 is mostly FMJ 147 grain, you can find 150 and 180 grain soft points but expect to pay over a buck a round. When I do see '06 it is again 150 or 180 grain soft points, the less popular 110 and 220 grain loads I have not seen since the beginning of the shortage.
But even relatively popular rounds like the old 30-30 seem to be hard to find. Go figure.
.410 scarcity is a result of supply and demand. There’s simply more, much more demand for 12 and 20ga. 10 ga is easier to find too. All the trap and sporting clays shooters? Mainly 12ga. Waterfowl? 12. Upland? 20 or 12 (and more 28 too).
Most of the ammo manufacturers are still playing catch-up. The bright light on the horizon is the sub-$300/k 9mm, and some 45 ACP at about $400/k. I keep deep in 5.56 & 45 ACP - I collect 1911's, so it makes sense that I have 10-15k rounds on hand (especially w/10 grandkids, lol).
Right now, lots of folks are "hunkering down" financially, so a lot of upper-tier 1911's are showing up on the market at pretty good prices. I bought 18 or 19 this past year that were just too good a deal to step away from - everything from a Wilson BBQ prototype to ACW's.....guns that had you told me I'd ever buy I'd have laughed in your face - figured they'd be WAY outta my league.
Ammoseek.com has been pretty good at helping me find good ammo deals, but honestly I've had the best luck on several forums that have "good ammo deals" threads.
The price of loaded .410 shells being higher than bigger gauges has always seemed odd to me. I can load .410 for *less* than bigger gauges unless I'm getting gouged on the wad. Uses the same primer, different powders but less of it, and less shot than bigger gauges. I guess the volume on 12 gauge helps keep the cost down. Maybe .410 is more difficult to load on the factory equipment, takes more worker involvement, has to run slower, something like that - not sure, just guessing here.
Now 25-06 ammo being scarce, I can understand that as it ain't a big seller. The ammo that I see on the shelf in plentiful supply is .308 and .223. Even 30-06 is not common. And the 308 is mostly FMJ 147 grain, you can find 150 and 180 grain soft points but expect to pay over a buck a round. When I do see '06 it is again 150 or 180 grain soft points, the less popular 110 and 220 grain loads I have not seen since the beginning of the shortage.
But even relatively popular rounds like the old 30-30 seem to be hard to find. Go figure.
Funny that the wads are kind of the most expensive part of reloading it.
Yeah, price means nothing without quantity specified.
I have a box of Hornady JHP 38 spl that only contains 25 rounds (cost was $26 I think, a couple years ago but now more than $30...if you can find any).
Been asking for wadcutters and NEVER find any in stock. They used to be referred to as inexpensive, but I saw prices for boxes of only 20 that were shockingly high.
I have been saying, for a while, that the new normal will be about three times what you paid in 2015 (that is about when prices bottomed out), so 35/rnd isn't too bad.
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Originally Posted by NewMexicoCowboy
It was 100 rounds.
OK, that comes to 10/rnd, which, today, isn't too bad, even though we would have roller our eyes and walked away from it in 2015.
I told everyone I knew, back in 2014 that they should be stocking up. Shortages happen every time "the wind changes," so there will be another shortage in the future. I have always recommended, when the ammo is available and the prices get reasonable, buy all that you intend to fire in the next three years. That should carry you through most of the next shortage.
wow.
i am still shooting our Y2K stash of .22LR.
essentially,
TRex2 is correct.
pre-loaded ammo
should be stocked-up
anytime the price is right.
there is no recent history
of price declines in ammo
or components.
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