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That's silly logic. Why does the sentence have to remain the same whether you are referring to yourself and Bobby versus just yourself? If you were to say "Bobby and I hurt ourselves" does that mean without Bobby it would be "I hurt ourselves"?
I can’t tell if you’re being deliberately thick or missed school when this was taught.
“Me” is never the subject of a sentence. You wouldn’t say “I hurt ourselves “ because that doesn’t make sense. You would say “I hurt myself.” Please tell me you wouldn’t say, “Me hurt myself.”
Back to other annoying phrases.
-“don’t have enough bandwidth.” Just tell me you’re too busy.
-using “like” parenthetically. “I was, like, you’re totally kidding. And she was, like, no, it’s true.” This is a problem particularly with those under 30 I find.
“Me” is never the subject of a sentence. You wouldn’t say “I hurt ourselves “ because that doesn’t make sense. You would say “I hurt myself.” Please tell me you wouldn’t say, “Me hurt myself.”
I didn't say anything about "me". I gave you an example that shows that the rest of the sentence does not have to remain the same if the subject changes.
That's silly logic. Why does the sentence have to remain the same whether you are referring to yourself and Bobby versus just yourself? If you were to say "Bobby and I hurt ourselves" does that mean without Bobby it would be "I hurt ourselves"?
It's not silly logic - it's grammar. And you'd say "I hurt myself." So "I" rather than "me" would be correct.
Redundancies sound ridiculous until you think about why they came about in the first place. People simply weren't paying enough attention in the conversation and would always "huh?" when you just say ATM or VIN or PIN. Or wondered what a needle had to do with their account... and it stuck.
Again, probably having something to do with the south, some words are bolstered by partnered words to clarify what it is:
INK PEN: pin/pan/pen all sound the same in twang, do you mean a FRYING pan, INK pen, or SAFETY pin?
CHEWING GUM: gum/gun (we love our guns) you just don't want to get this one wrong when asking for some gum...
I've lived in the south nearly my entire life and no, "pan," "pen" and "pin" do not sound the same anywhere. "Pen" and "pin" do, but not "pan." Sorry. But two outta three ain't bad.
I think these days it's "Not my circus, not my monkey."
My favorite is "That sounds like a YOU problem and not a ME problem."
Gotta agree with "whence", one of my betes noires.
I have no problem with people saying "no problem" instead of "You're welcome." I like to think the sentiment is the same, it's just a matter of semantics and what people are used to saying. As long as they are not telling me "Sod off, you crazy old lady", I am happy.
and apropos of I vs. me, the other side of the coin is people who feel that "me" is inexcusably vulgar, so you get sentences like, "Could you bring my friend and I our menus please?"
and apropos of I vs. me, the other side of the coin is people who feel that "me" is inexcusably vulgar, so you get sentences like, "Could you bring my friend and I our menus please?"
Sigh. THAT sounds pretentious to me and irritates the heck out of me! LEARN THE RULES OF GRAMMAR, PEOPLE, AND THIS WON'T HAPPEN.
"Could you bring ME my menu, please?"
I actually have a daughter who somehow got this sideways and she's always saying things like "This is a picture of my husband and I" or "Can you take my friend and I to the airport?" Stuff like that. I thought I taught her better than that! (Is that a dangling preposition? By "that" I mean "THAT!")
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I can’t tell if you’re being deliberately thick or missed school when this was taught.
