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Old 01-24-2019, 08:31 AM
 
Location: northwest valley, az
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The kid had an airsoft gun. That wasn't a gunshot at 1:13.
what was it then, and, what training/certifications do you have that qualifies you to make a judgement on what that was?

 
Old 01-24-2019, 08:38 AM
 
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what was it then, and, what training/certifications do you have that qualifies you to make a judgement on what that was?
LOL, I’ve fired airsoft guns before. You don’t need a certificate to know that they sound nothing like the noise in the video. Don’t be daft.
 
Old 01-24-2019, 08:53 AM
 
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True...this goes back to that "Hindsight" comment. The Officer didn't know it was an Airsoft gun. In the moment, he was facing a fleeing armed suspect.
Understood. I got the feeling that NDak15 was justifying the end result.
 
Old 01-24-2019, 08:55 AM
 
Location: northwest valley, az
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so, hearing a sound, on a lousy you tube video, taken from a officers body cam microphone, which, at best, is a 15 cent microphone embedded in a camera holder, you are able to discern with certainty what that sound was and where it came from? very impressive...
 
Old 01-24-2019, 08:56 AM
 
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
this.
 
Old 01-24-2019, 08:57 AM
 
Location: northwest valley, az
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Understood. I got the feeling that NDak15 was justifying the end result.
well, its never a good thing when someone gets shot in the back by law enforcement..
but, which has yet to be determined, is did that "kid" shoot at the cop first; if so, then he got what he deserved..if he did not shoot at the cop first, there is alot of explaining yet to come..
 
Old 01-24-2019, 09:00 AM
 
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so, hearing a sound, on a lousy you tube video, taken from a officers body cam microphone, which, at best, is a 15 cent microphone embedded in a camera holder, you are able to discern with certainty what that sound was and where it came from? very impressive...
No, show me where I said that. I never did. I can’t say what that sound was. It was very obviously not from an airsoft gun being fired at a distance though. They’re not loud at all and don’t sound anything like that. That much is very clear to anyone that’s fired an airsoft gun.

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Old 01-24-2019, 09:03 AM
 
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I'm not sure if the Tempe Police body cam video was posted here, but.. play it and watch what happens around the time the officer asks the suspect "Let me see your hands", after frame 1:12, when the foot chase started, you can hear noise that sounded like gun fire at frame 1:13-1:14, and it wasn't from the officer's weapon. Also, play the video by clicking on the link below so that you can watch it directly on youtube.com, which also gives you the ability to play it in full screen.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVBO...ature=youtu.be
Most likely that noise is a result of scuffing of a foot or brushing of the mic. Our minds have a WONDERFUL way of fitting sounds to what we want to believe. It is called the "McGurk Effect".

Watch this is it will illustrate the McGurk Effect. The audio in the comparison link is identical (re-watch and close your eyes). Yet our brains factually hear what we think it should. Well worth the watch if you have not heard of this before. I often see this in my line of work.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-lN8vWm3m0
 
Old 01-24-2019, 09:05 AM
 
Location: northwest valley, az
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That much is very clear to anyone that’s fired an airsoft gun that has their head screwed on straight.
are you flinging insults once again? you've been warned about this in the past..
 
Old 01-24-2019, 09:08 AM
 
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are you flinging insults once again? you've been warned about this in the past..
Warned? It was a straightforward statement, but I reworded my point to avoid hurt feelings. The sound is not from an airsoft gun. Why are you so insistent on defending a point that is so clearly wrong. It’s ok to concede from time to time.

See MN’s post above for reference.
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