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I have technology that will keep that human alive. It's called a law against murder and involves a prison cell for those who are so selfish they think they have a right to murder.
Oh ok. Well, good luck with that dream of theocracy. But why prison cells? Why not stonings?
OK, on another note, this whole debate opened up a can of worms that I'm sure the Komen folks were not expecting. It has come to my attention that the organization spends 60% of its take on overhead, lawsuits, high salaries and administrative costs. Seems like an audit is long overdue. I've given to them in the past, but I'll be looking for another outfit that spends more of its $ on the people it serves. Komen is finished.
I haven't referenced religion once in this thread. I don't need to either. This isn't a women's rights issue. This is a matter of murder not being tolerated. Plenty of women are being murdered by abortionists, what about their rights?
You've repeatedly expressed your OPINION that abortion is murder.
The rights of a living woman trump the rights of a potential woman.
How do you know that?
Well, the wonders of modern technology allow me to research, right in my home, any topic I desire....
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Before 30 weeks gestational age, EEG activity is extremely limited and somatosensory evoked potentials are immature, lacking components which correlate with information processing within the cerebral cortex. Thus, 30 weeks is considered a more plausible stage of fetal development at which the lower boundary for sentience could be placed.
OK, on another note, this whole debate opened up a can of worms that I'm sure the Komen folks were not expecting. It has come to my attention that the organization spends 60% of its take on overhead, lawsuits, high salaries and administrative costs. Seems like an audit is long overdue. I've given to them in the past, but I'll be looking for another outfit that spends more of its $ on the people it serves. Komen is finished.
I noticed that also.... I'm not saying they're finished with me yet but it did raise an eyebrow.
Well, the wonders of modern technology allow me to research, right in my home, any topic I desire....
Others disagree:
"We state categorically that no finding of modern fetology invalidates the remarkable conclusion drawn after a lifetime of research by the late Professor Arnold Gesell of Yale University. In The Embryology of Behavior: The Beginnings of the Human Mind (1945, Harper Bros.), Dr. Gesell wrote, 'and so by the close of the first trimester the fetus is a sentient, moving being. We need not speculate as to the nature of his psychic attributes, but we may assert that the organization of his psychosomatic self is well under way.' " http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_pain2.htm
No one really can answer that question at this time, yet you're willing to gamble with that.
But this is a side issue and distraction really, it's a human at all stages of development, and there is no right to take its life because someone else finds it inconvenient.
"We state categorically that no finding of modern fetology invalidates the remarkable conclusion drawn after a lifetime of research by the late Professor Arnold Gesell of Yale University. In The Embryology of Behavior: The Beginnings of the Human Mind (1945, Harper Bros.), Dr. Gesell wrote, 'and so by the close of the first trimester the fetus is a sentient, moving being. We need not speculate as to the nature of his psychic attributes, but we may assert that the organization of his psychosomatic self is well under way.' " http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_pain2.htm
No one really can answer that question at this time, yet you're willing to gamble with that.
But this is a side issue and distraction really, it's a human at all stages of development, and there is no right to take its life because someone else finds it inconvenient.
Research from 1945? So wait in your new utopia there will be no access to abortion, no stonings, and no modern science and technology?
"We state categorically that no finding of modern fetology invalidates the remarkable conclusion drawn after a lifetime of research by the late Professor Arnold Gesell of Yale University. In The Embryology of Behavior: The Beginnings of the Human Mind (1945, Harper Bros.), Dr. Gesell wrote, 'and so by the close of the first trimester the fetus is a sentient, moving being. We need not speculate as to the nature of his psychic attributes, but we may assert that the organization of his psychosomatic self is well under way.' " http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_pain2.htm
No one really can answer that question at this time, yet you're willing to gamble with that.
But this is a side issue and distraction really, it's a human at all stages of development, and there is no right to take its life because someone else finds it inconvenient.
Have you ever been pregnant? I have - twice, both times with great joy and anticipation. My feelings about abortion are mixed - not sure I could make the choice to have one. However, my feelings about abortion apply to ME only. My body, my choice - not yours.
We're done here. Every thing that can be said has been said. Have a good evening...
Research from 1945? So wait in your new utopia there will be no access to abortion, no stonings, and no modern science and technology?
What makes you say that? Not even the most recent studies agree on this matter. Many doctors and scientists rely on findings older than that too. It's valid until a contrary position is conclusively supported. I'm quite happy with modern science. The date of viability outside the womb is earlier and earlier all the time, and may be pushed to the very start, eliminating any grounds the murderers have to stand on.
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