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A consent form, and sometimes a legal medical power of attorney, are no good if you are traveling. I have had my legal poa questioned, and have been excluded from the ER while my partner was in after an accident. 4 hours with no word on her condition. If we were married I would have been at her side.
SSM isn't legal in very many states either so how well does that work if they don't accept it?
SSM isn't legal in very many states either so how well does that work if they don't accept it?
Without DOMA, even the states that don't want to allow its taxpaying citizens to GET a SSM in state borders will have to recognize SSM performed elsewhere for all other legal purposes.
It's why this is eventually a losing issue for opponents of SSM. It's already legal in the freedom loving states, and absent the artificial wall that is DOMA (which WILL eventually be torn down), people would be able to have their legally binding contracts recognized in other states.
That's probably the first step in legalization on a national level. That's a much better alternative to the status quo at least.
No that's what you wrote not me. I've been to the hospital when friends were in ER and allowed to see them, it must just be discrimination against gays
Why not roll your eyes at jjrose's post (#116) describing this actually happening to her? And how can you still maintain everybody has equal rights in this regard while at the same time giving specific advice about ways to try and circumvent an inequality in the law?
That is why it should be legal in every state, or at least recognized from state to state like every other marriage.
Maybe we should amend the Constitution to including something that makes it so states have to give full faith and credit to the acts and judicial procedures of the other states.
Opposition to same-sex marriage DOES NOT equal hate for gays
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Why not roll your eyes at jjrose's post (#116) describing this actually happening to her? And how can you still maintain everybody has equal rights in this regard while at the same time giving specific advice about ways to try and circumvent an inequality in the law?
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All you have to do is sign a concent form at the hospital, I do it with my own family, no big deal you can do it ahead of time and it's kept on file.
And when you're hospitalized away from home? Can't you see the silliness of a philandering spouse in a 'conventional' marriage being allowed in the ER no matter where it is while someone in a monogamous same-sex relationship is treated like a stranger who wandered in off the street?
I've been denied to see a friend so what, Being opposed to something does not equal hate.
If I supported a law banning straight couples from contracting a civil marriage, thereby denying heterosexuals access to the 1400 civil rights of civil marriage, would I not be called a heterosexual hater?
If I supported a law banning Christians from contracting a civil marriage, thereby denying Christians access to the 1400 civil rights of civil marriage, would I not be called a Christian hater?
If I supported a law banning Jewish people from contracting a civil marriage, thereby denying them access to the 1400 civil rights of civil marriage, would I not be called a Jew hater?
If I supported a law banning black people from contracting a civil marriage, thereby denying them access to the 1400 civil rights of civil marriage, would I not be called a racist black hater?
I certainly would be called a hater, and it would be fitting. Why is it when you replace straight/Christian/Jewish/black with "gay" it's not hate but simply a disagreement or opposition?
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As a sin against faith, I see atheism in many ways as being worse than murder. Yet I still have atheist friends. As long as they don't try to convert me - and I do not see them as being an occasion of sin for me - I will befriend them.
I've been denied to see a friend so what, Being opposed to something does not equal hate.
"A friend".... or your WIFE/someone you lived with for YEARS in a relationship?
You see no difference? "So what?" is your response. How incredibly lame.
You disagree with the characteristics of the people who want to enter into the marriage contract, which is otherwise open to any number of disturbing combinations including 93 year olds marrying 18 year olds, cousin marriage and marriage of minors "with parental consent."
The fact that you have no rational basis for "disagreeing" with SSM... something that does not affect you, your own marriage, or your own rights one iota, makes you a hater.
Why don't you and others just own up to it? Why does it bother you so? If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...
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Opposition to same-sex marriage DOES NOT equal hate for gays
