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The reason the law makes no sense is that "fear" cannot be measured. I mean, what is "reasonable" fear to me might be entirely different to someone else.
The main reason I never thought this was a self defense case (with or without SYG) is that Zimmerman said "he's running." I just don't see how pursuing someone who is running away is self defense, just because that person punched you in fear for his own life. Why wouldn't Trayvon Martin have the same right? If he did, then I guess whoever has a gun is the person who is in the right!
To start with, the dispatcher was asking GZ which way TM was running & if he could still see him, etc. GZ was out of the vehicle to observe where TM was running to so he could tell the police who were already on their way, not pursuing him to try & catch him. The moment the dispatcher realizes GZ is out of the vehicle he tells him they don't need him to do that & GZ complies.
Now, answer me this....How does TM get away, then 3.5 minutes later resurface all the way back by where GZ's vehicle is? He could have run home & back 2-3 times in 3.5 minutes. He could have run home, locked the door, told his Dad & called 911 in 3.5 minutes. Instead TM goes alllllll the way back to GZ's position. Why? The answer is obvious. He went back to attack him & he did. And he got shot for it.
Yes, my thought is Puerto Rico is a country, not race. She's black for christ sake!! You might as well say she's not black, she's Jamaican In any case, no matter the race, she's a disgrace. First, if she really felt that way, she was obligated to vote guilty, rather than go along with the others. Serving on a jury is not a popularity contest, and she acted negligently, if she felt that way. By even admitting this, she's demonstrating what a complete moron she is, along with having no integrity or courage of her convictions. I have ZERO respect for nitwits like her.
But it really is a racism thing ... those who can't see the clear cut case of self defense here are simply blinded by their own deep seated, disgusting racism.
To be fair, she's Puerto Rican, not "Black". "Black" as we think of it in the United States is a culture, not a color. Puerto Rican's absolutely do not identify themselves as "Black". On the contrary, there is a long history of trouble & distrust between Puerto Ricans & "Blacks".
What I find disturbing is that the Latinos in general think of themselves as Latinos & someone, not sure if it's US Blacks, Liberals, or whoever is intentionally trying to cause racial division within the Latino community by inventing terms like "White Latino" & "Black Latino" when these are things that simply don't divide them like they do our culture. It very much feels like someone is intentionally trying to damage the Latino community by injecting their own racial trips on a people who are far more advanced & comfortable with racially diversity than we are.
Been my thoughts all along. Zimmerman did have questionable actions in the moments leading up to the shooting, but it simply wasn't enough to convict him. As far as we know, only Zimmerman will know what happened the night he shot Trayvon. Maybe it was defense, maybe it was pre-emptive.
and this is what too many are forgetting. Yes, he did react using poor judgment, but when the incident got out of hand Zimmerman did what he thought he had to do.
I feel sorry for everyone involved, but our law says, guilty beyond a reasonable doubt and he just wasn't guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. As for the juror, the same thing happened after the Casey Anthony case, several of the jurors came forward and said they didn't think she was innocent but there just wasn't enough evidence. in that case almost all the jurors wanted to convict her, they just couldn't.
If she believed that Zimmerman was guilty of murder and that the shooting wasn't in self defense like he has said then I wished the interviewer had asked this juror to walk through what she believed had happened that night based on her knowledge of the circumstances.
To be fair, she's Puerto Rican, not "Black". "Black" as we think of it in the United States is a culture, not a color. Puerto Rican's absolutely do not identify themselves as "Black". On the contrary, there is a long history of trouble & distrust between Puerto Ricans & "Blacks".
What I find disturbing is that the Latinos in general think of themselves as Latinos & someone, not sure if it's US Blacks, Liberals, or whoever is intentionally trying to cause racial division within the Latino community by inventing terms like "White Latino" & "Black Latino" when these are things that simply don't divide them like they do our culture. It very much feels like someone is intentionally trying to damage the Latino community by injecting their own racial trips on a people who are far more advanced & comfortable with racially diversity than we are.
As a latino I can tell you that latinos are generally MORE racist than non-latinos are. In latin america, the concept of political correctness doesn't even exist. And, black puerto ricans are notorious for not considering themselves black and/or denying their black/african ancestry. Ditto for black dominicans.
She is 36 with 8 children with the oldest being 20.
She was the only one who wants to convict Zimmerman of 2nd degree murder, but she decided to follow the law instead later on.
this is what everyone who is saying: "see, he should have been convicted" needs to think about. No, she isn't black and that shouldn't have much to do with this anyway, but she admits she was the only one that was a holdout, even though she says a few times, we all this or that. I am sure she really believes he got away with murder, but I don't know what, coming forward like this will accomplish. In fact she could be doing more damage than good.
Keep in mind she is Puerto Rican, not black. Thoughts?
Thoughts
GIVE IT UP ALREADY!!!
The deal is done! The verdict is in, over, fini.. right wrong or indifferent the guy can't be tried again....Just let it go already
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In any case, no matter the race, she's a disgrace. First, if she really felt that way, she was obligated to vote guilty, rather than go along with the others. Serving on a jury is not a popularity contest, and she acted negligently, if she felt that way. By even admitting this, she's demonstrating what a complete moron she is, along with having no integrity or courage of her convictions. I have ZERO respect for nitwits like her. 
