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Old 07-26-2013, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Yeah he got away with murder but then says there was no evidence of murder. She also says the case shouldn't have been brought to trial. She's just throwing the Trayvoniacs some crumbs.

This woman is a idiot. She thinks that if someone is killed that the shooter should be charged with murder regardless if they have a reason. People with ignorant opinions like this should not be allowed on jurys.

The only reason she is saying this now is to keep the lynch mobs from burning down her house.

 
Old 07-26-2013, 06:42 AM
 
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She's an idiot. What she means to say is, as much as I wanted to be like every other black in the country and pretend he's guilty regardless of the facts the law kept me from doing it.

She is explaining to her race why she let them down.
Exactly. Couldn't of said it better.
 
Old 07-26-2013, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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Wrong- the whole jury must be in total agreement...if but one does not agree the there needs to be a second trial. She admits in public that she did not agree with the other jurors - but simply gave in to what she believed was popular opinion among the jury members. I really don't understand this- Imagine if there was a death penalty involved here.

Imagine if this woman was part of a jury that had the power to put a man to death...and she in her heart truly believed that the man was INNOCENT...yet she went with the flow and had the man executed? What would we all say then?
 
Old 07-26-2013, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Wrong- the whole jury must be in total agreement...if but one does not agree the there needs to be a second trial. She admits in public that she did not agree with the other jurors - but simply gave in to what she believed was popular opinion among the jury members. I really don't understand this- Imagine if there was a death penalty involved here.

Imagine if this woman was part of a jury that had the power to put a man to death...and she in her heart truly believed that the man was INNOCENT...yet she went with the flow and had the man executed? What would we all say then?
Actually, in the case of a hung jury the state often chooses not to retry the case. Particularly when there was only a single vote for guilty.
 
Old 07-26-2013, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Wrong- the whole jury must be in total agreement...if but one does not agree the there needs to be a second trial. She admits in public that she did not agree with the other jurors - but simply gave in to what she believed was popular opinion among the jury members. I really don't understand this- Imagine if there was a death penalty involved here.

Imagine if this woman was part of a jury that had the power to put a man to death...and she in her heart truly believed that the man was INNOCENT...yet she went with the flow and had the man executed? What would we all say then?

She didn't give in to the other jurors.



She followed the law and said as much.
 
Old 07-26-2013, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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Actually, in the case of a hung jury the state often chooses not to retry the case. Particularly when there was only a single vote for guilty.
ONE single vote of guilty or innocence ...is ONE drop of reasonable doubt. So if this woman had shown her reason for doubting the innocence of Zimmerman...would that have been enough to convict him? I don't get it.
 
Old 07-26-2013, 07:20 AM
 
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She didn't give in to the other jurors.



She followed the law and said as much.

And people will never understand this, so sad...
 
Old 07-26-2013, 07:22 AM
 
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Personally, I'm very torn overall on this case. I can't make up my mind. With that said, this was quite interesting to say the least. Juror says she owes Martin's parents apology - Houston Chronicle

Keep in mind she is Puerto Rican, not black. Thoughts?
Yes, my thought is Puerto Rico is a country, not race. She's black for christ sake!! You might as well say she's not black, she's Jamaican In any case, no matter the race, she's a disgrace. First, if she really felt that way, she was obligated to vote guilty, rather than go along with the others. Serving on a jury is not a popularity contest, and she acted negligently, if she felt that way. By even admitting this, she's demonstrating what a complete moron she is, along with having no integrity or courage of her convictions. I have ZERO respect for nitwits like her.

But it really is a racism thing ... those who can't see the clear cut case of self defense here are simply blinded by their own deep seated, disgusting racism.
 
Old 07-26-2013, 07:27 AM
 
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And people will never understand this, so sad...
Bull .... if the law says it was not murder ... and she was simply following the law .... then she should keep that fat pie hole shut and not make such dastardly statements that "he got away with murder".

Enough of the PC BS already .... the truth about this nation's problems with racism is that it is not the white people who are the racists, in spite of decades of insinuations that ONLY white people can be racists.
 
Old 07-26-2013, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Houston
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ONE single vote of guilty or innocence ...is ONE drop of reasonable doubt. So if this woman had shown her reason for doubting the innocence of Zimmerman...would that have been enough to convict him? I don't get it.

The burden is on the prosecution, not the defense. In the absence of a jury consisting of six Black Panthers there was no chance of the state ever getting a conviction. The woman also said the case should have never gone to trial. I agree with her.
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