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View Poll Results: Should Spanking Your Kids Be.....
Illegal 12 9.84%
Leagal 110 90.16%
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Old 12-31-2007, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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What do they "know"? They know mommy is going to spank them.
What do they "learn"? They learn mommy is going to spank them.

So what exactly does that teach about the individual action? What about learning WHY something is dangerous?
LOL.....honey, Here's why it's not a good idea to stick the fork in your brothers eye....You get you diaper swatted!!!!!!! Thats how you explain something to a 4 yr old. scheesh some peoples kids What are you gonna do wait till after the deed is done to explain why the shouldn't do that!!!!!(yes I have 2 of my own, both spanked,both well adjusted,well behaved,hard working,honor roll,church going kids)
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Old 12-31-2007, 10:37 AM
 
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Believe me -- if I have a kid who is intent on running or playing near a busy street, or taking certain risks, like climbing over a fence to go play near the street and a couple of warnings don't send the message -- yes -- I will spank that child.
What kind of parenting are you doing that your kid would not listen after a couple of warnings? It should never get to that stage in the first place.

And what does your last alternative say about you? Are you saying you aren't equipped with other tools to deal with children other than spanking?

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And when a child who has had the "perfect parents" who never felt that discipline was needed gets the imperfect boss then what happens?
Let's turn your question around, When a child gets an imperfect boss, should he spank him? Or for that matter, why is an adult hitting another adult considered "assault" while an adult hitting a child consider discipline. Talk about hypocritical behavior.

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That kid grew up believing he could do as he saw fit, whatever was reasonable to him. He will suddenly become surprised to find out that people like bosses do get angry and that suddenly there are consequences. Or the police.
It always comes to the highlighted text.

What makes you think no spanking equals no discipline.

It takes a whole lot more discipline and brain power to come up with other alternatives than it takes to overpower someone who is 1/4 or your size and strike them with your open palm.
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Old 12-31-2007, 10:41 AM
 
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LOL.....honey, Here's why it's not a good idea to stick the fork in your brothers eye....You get you diaper swatted!!!!!!! Thats how you explain something to a 4 yr old. scheesh some peoples kids What are you gonna do wait till after the deed is done to explain why the shouldn't do that!!!!!(yes I have 2 of my own, both spanked,both well adjusted,well behaved,hard working,honor roll,church going kids)

Well adjusted? Do they call people "Honey" because they don't agree with them? It's condescending and passive aggressive. Not exactly an example of behavior to teach one's kids.

My child doesn't do stuff like that. I talk to her about the golden rule long before things get to such a level of danger. I guess she is better behaved because I treat her with respect and don't call her "honey" when I disagree with her.

By the way, you never did answer the question.

What lesson does spanking teach them, other than that momma's gonna spank them if you do something that momma doesn't like. It seems rather arbitrary.
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Old 12-31-2007, 10:58 AM
 
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What kind of parenting are you doing that your kid would not listen after a couple of warnings? It should never get to that stage in the first place.
Well you were the one that admitted to fearing your own 15 year old -- that if you tried to spank a 15 year old that they would attack you.

And -- you have not had every child or every kind of child. I agree that many children are born very docile and never need to be told something twice. Some however are going to test their limits and until you've had a child like that you cannot judge.
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Old 12-31-2007, 11:13 AM
 
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Well you were the one that admitted to fearing your own 15 year old -- that if you tried to spank a 15 year old that they would attack you.
I don't have a 15 year old child. You must have me confused with someone else. A spanker who posed a hypothetical by the way.

A 15 year old, however is not a child. Anyone who hits a 15 year old, has a mental problem and should seek assistance from those who handle people with aggression issues.

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And -- you have not had every child or every kind of child. I agree that many children are born very docile and never need to be told something twice. Some however are going to test their limits and until you've had a child like that you cannot judge.
My child is not docile by any means. Not even when she was still in the hospital at 2 days of age. But she is treated with respect, and is generally well behaved.
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Old 12-31-2007, 11:15 AM
 
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You have only one child? That also can make a difference.

Having one child does not make one an expert on all children. You have a daughter -- ever try raising a son?
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Old 12-31-2007, 11:23 AM
 
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You have only one child? That also can make a difference.

Having one child does not make one an expert on all children. You have a daughter -- ever try raising a son?

I concur. Only having a child does not make one an expert. Nor does having 10 or 12.

But I have cited research from various sources, including the American Academy of Pediatrics.

And from what I understand, girls are much harder to raise.
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Old 12-31-2007, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Again - spanking is not now, nor should it be, ever be illegal
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Old 12-31-2007, 01:05 PM
 
Location: South FL
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You have only one child? That also can make a difference.

Having one child does not make one an expert on all children. You have a daughter -- ever try raising a son?
Here!! Me! I have a son who often makes my blood boil. In fact since infancy he was the most spirited kid I know. Yet, spanking is something that I would not use for discipline, because it's stupid.
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Old 12-31-2007, 01:09 PM
 
Location: South FL
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Well -- obviously there are those parents who give up on parenting and turn to psychologists and counselors to do that job for them. There are those parents who actually fear their 14 or 15 year old child. They fear that child will actually hit them or worse.

Those are parents who long ago gave up on trying to have the authority.

I don't believe all children need a spanking -- like I said, some kids are just naturally docile and behaved. But -- in the same family you can get one who will test their limits. You cannot judge because you didn't raise everyone's child. So let their own parents who do raise them take the best approach for that individual child.
I really have NO IDEA what does psychologists and counselors have to do with anything.
There is other type of parenting. It's called being a "backbone" parent. Someone who knows how to be a parent without using physical violence, someone who has enough strength and patience to be an authority without scaring a child.
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