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You mean like grandparents living with their adult children? Unfortunately, they would have to be placed in senior facilities for the next few months. Not ideal separating them, but it's sure preferable than having the entire nation go into hiding, see businesses destroyed, millions of jobs lost, and poverty jump significantly.
Sad for Grandma, but lives would be protected, and the economy would not be destroyed. You're not honestly saying that you would prefer to ruin the economy, destroy people's life savings, have millions lose their jobs, bring about massive poverty (that comes with its own health problems), just because it would be "nicer" to keep multi-generational families together for the next few months?
Not just “poor old” grandma. What about the father with diabetes? The mother with asthma? The roommate that just finished chemo? Are you throwing them in facilities too?
How do you produce more n95 masks, test kits, ventilators, and the many other things needed, by shutting down the economy? The lefties desired plan does nothing to help the production side of our economy. It actually harms it. These items were in short supply before states were contemplating a lockdown. So what do you think is going to happen when they start shutting everything down?
Exactly! We'd be better off with more manufacturing to create these items.
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Whose fault is that? You're saying that innocent people should die because irresponsible people go into debt and don't have the recommended 1 year's worth of savings?
Not all low income people are irresponsible. When you're living paycheck to paycheck with only enough to pay for the basics then you cannot save up for a year of expenses.
The grocery store does not produce these things. They have a limited supply of items they sell. When it's all gone and the producers don't have anymore to sell, tough.
No, Im saying we should not kill even more people by destroying the economy and making the world poorer. You are saying anyone who doesn't support the most extreme measures possible want people to die, which is disingenuous and downright hysterical. Crashing the economy and causing 20% unemployment will lead to higher mortality from suicide, drug/alcohol use, possibly social unrest and food insecurity issues. Lefties aren't thinking this through... Or maybe they want these things to happen so they can blame it on Trump, like they did the crashing stock market caused by the virus and the reaction to it so far.
What are the estimates of how many people will die if we go into a depression? Is it more than 2 million? And how certain is it that we would go into a depression?
Whose fault is that? You're saying that innocent people should die because irresponsible people go into debt and don't have the recommended 1 year's worth of savings?
give me a break. Who the hell had a year of savings as a 20 year old kid going to community college?
Isn't that better than quarantining EVERYBODY, regardless of whether they have an underlying condition at all? Right now we have states putting everyone in lockdown - like 40 or 50 million in California alone. That's about 15% of the population right there! And more states are starting to do it. By next week at this time, we could have 100 million people ordered to shelter-in-place. Why not just focus on those who are old and/or have other conditions? Why lock up a third of the population, and tell the ENTIRE population not to work, thereby destroying businesses, jobs, and bringing about widespread poverty?
Because we don't know who all may have this virus. You don't necessarily have to be old or infirm to be at risk. Some younger person in a bar could have had since January. We just don't know.
The Leftists and their Lapdog Media caused this unwarranted Panic.
All to punish the Deplorables who elected Donald Trump.
There is nothing they would not do to get rid of him ....AND anyone who supports him.
I hope they choke on it.
More pointless partisan nonsense. It's not "Unwarranted Panic" unless you think all the coffins backed up in Italy are some leftist fake moon landing or something. Holy crap, when do you guys stop?
Why the urgency, if most people survive?Here's why: Fatality is the wrong yardstick. Catching the virus can mess up your life in many, many more ways than just straight-up killing you. "We are all young"—okay. "Even if we get the bug, we will survive"—fantastic. How about needing four months of physical therapy before you even feel human again. Or getting scar tissue in your lungs and having your activity level restricted for the rest of your life.
Dr. Owen Tsang Tak-yin, medical director of the authority’s Infectious Disease Centre at Princess Margaret Hospital in Kwai Chung, said that of about a dozen discharged patients examined, two or three were unable to function as they had previously.
“They gasp if they walk a bit more quickly,” Tsang told reporters Thursday, according to the news outlet. “Some patients might have around a drop of 20 to 30 percent in lung function [after recovery].”
Lung scans of nine infected patients at the hospital suggested they had suffered organ damage.
. . . .
Though headlines focus on fatalities, the long term condition of the survivors may be worrisome, if lung capacity is reduced. To have millions with chronic fibrosis and needing treatment for the rest of their lives is something to be alarmed about.
At this point I think there are much more sinister agendas behind this "crisis." The news that the DOJ is trying to immediately suspend habeas corpus and due process (I just created on thread on this topic) and the Federal Reserve is trying to usher in a digital currency should have everyone VERY concerned. Never let a good crisis go to waste.........
Mark of the beast and a one world currency as people have predicted for a long time. People won't be able to buy or sell without it.
Why the urgency, if most people survive?Here's why: Fatality is the wrong yardstick. Catching the virus can mess up your life in many, many more ways than just straight-up killing you. "We are all young"—okay. "Even if we get the bug, we will survive"—fantastic. How about needing four months of physical therapy before you even feel human again. Or getting scar tissue in your lungs and having your activity level restricted for the rest of your life.
Dr. Owen Tsang Tak-yin, medical director of the authority’s Infectious Disease Centre at Princess Margaret Hospital in Kwai Chung, said that of about a dozen discharged patients examined, two or three were unable to function as they had previously.
“They gasp if they walk a bit more quickly,” Tsang told reporters Thursday, according to the news outlet. “Some patients might have around a drop of 20 to 30 percent in lung function [after recovery].”
Lung scans of nine infected patients at the hospital suggested they had suffered organ damage.
. . . .
Though headlines focus on fatalities, the long term condition of the survivors may be worrisome, if lung capacity is reduced. To have millions with chronic fibrosis and needing treatment for the rest of their lives is something to be alarmed about.
News just keeps getting worse. Time for another beer.
What are the estimates of how many people will die if we go into a depression? Is it more than 2 million? And how certain is it that we would go into a depression?
If we're going to play the what if and whataboutism game, then I will play along. I presented a very possible and real outcome that could occur as a result of shutting down out economy. JPM and Goldman Sachs are all predicting double digit unemployment very soon.
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More pointless partisan nonsense. It's not "Unwarranted Panic" unless you think all the coffins backed up in Italy are some leftist fake moon landing or something. Holy crap, when do you guys stop?
People die. That's what they do. Do coffins scare you because you've watched too many vampire movies or something? Some people would rather enjoy their limited time on earth here living life to the fullest, not being a Debbie Downer and trying to freak everyone out like you are probably doing to yourself.
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