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Old 11-24-2020, 04:30 PM
 
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More "modeling" by politically interested people.

It must be frustrating to you that there isn't a RCT that supports your fetish for universal and permanent mask wearing.
Blah, blah.

 
Old 11-24-2020, 07:51 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Blah, blah.
Hey, you sound just like Fauci and the Democrats extolling the virtues of wearing a cloth bandana. Congrats.
 
Old 11-24-2020, 08:49 PM
 
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Hey, you sound just like Fauci and the Democrats extolling the virtues of wearing a cloth bandana. Congrats.
I don't wear a cloth bandana, good quality masks are widely available.
 
Old 11-24-2020, 08:55 PM
 
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Hey, you sound just like Fauci and the Democrats extolling the virtues of wearing a cloth bandana. Congrats.
Taiwan: SEVEN deaths, 20 million + population, no disruption to economy. Do you have any questions?
 
Old 11-24-2020, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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That's not even close to a medical study, Try real and actual studies conducted by medical science, not anecdotal silliness.

2019 WHO review of mask studies found 'no evidence' they stopped transmission of flu

10 separate randomized, controlled trials examining the effectiveness of face masks in stopping flu transmission. There was "no evidence that face masks are effective in reducing transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza" found in that survey.
From an Oklahoma City press release on Nov. 24th:

Oklahoma City’s mask ordinance extended until Jan. 22

Oklahoma City’s mask ordinance is in place until at least Jan. 22 after the City Council voted Tuesday to extend the requirement to wear face coverings in indoor public places.

The emergency public safety ordinance was set to expire Dec. 7, but Tuesday’s action moved the expiration date to Jan. 22. The Council has discretion to revisit the expiration date at future meetings.

Public health officials say face coverings are key to slowing the spread of COVID-19. Cases are growing at a slower rate in cities in Oklahoma with mask mandates when compared to cities without them, according to public health data.

Evidence shows there’s a high risk of infected people spreading the virus with their breath if they don’t use a face covering. Evidence also shows infected people can spread the virus even if they don’t have symptoms, underscoring the importance of mask-wearing even for people who feel healthy.


Enforcement
People can report violations of the mask ordinance to the Action Center using one of four ways:

Online at okc.gov/action
By email to action.center@okc.gov
By text message to (405) 252-1053
Via the OKC Connect smartphone app for iOS and Android devices

Action Center staff will make a report that is routed to OCCHD, whose inspectors will respond to reports.

When responding, inspectors will first offer a mask or an opportunity for the person to leave the public, indoor space.

People who refuse to wear the mask or leave would be subject to a fine of $9 on a conviction for a first or second offense. The fine would rise to a maximum of $100 for third and subsequent offenses.

In situations where someone is refusing to leave or to wear a mask, call 911 for Police Department enforcement of trespassing ordinances.

People with a medical condition preventing them from safely wearing a mask can produce a document from their physician confirming that information, and will not be subject to a conviction and fine related to the mask ordinance.
 
Old 11-24-2020, 11:06 PM
 
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Where in that PPT presentation is there even a link to the study of mask effectiveness?

I asked you, if there are firm scientific studies out there, then tell me mask effectiveness at reducing transmission.
 
Old 11-25-2020, 04:10 AM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Taiwan: SEVEN deaths, 20 million + population, no disruption to economy. Do you have any questions?
Yes. Where is the randomized controlled trial that proves wearing a cloth mask does anything to substantially reduce the risk of contracting COVID-19 to either the wearer or anyone else?
 
Old 11-25-2020, 06:47 AM
 
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Taiwan: SEVEN deaths, 20 million + population, no disruption to economy. Do you have any questions?

the virus is not disrupting the economy politicians are. we can go about our business and whoever gets sick gets sick. lockdowns and restrictions on restaurants are the true cause of the decay of the economy. if biden gets in and gives us a 4 to 6-week lockdown then will come the great depression.
 
Old 11-25-2020, 06:52 AM
 
Location: NYC
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the virus is not disrupting the economy politicians are. we can go about our business and whoever gets sick gets sick. lockdowns and restrictions on restaurants are the true cause of the decay of the economy. if biden gets in and gives us a 4 to 6-week lockdown then will come the great depression.
Then the healthcare system crashes. Look how overwhelmed the hospitals are now. Nurses walking out. Patients unable to get care. Imagine if we were fully open.
 
Old 11-25-2020, 06:53 AM
 
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the virus is not disrupting the economy politicians are. we can go about our business and whoever gets sick gets sick. lockdowns and restrictions on restaurants are the true cause of the decay of the economy. if biden gets in and gives us a 4 to 6-week lockdown then will come the great depression.
It's really not the case, it's people staying home that is hurting businesses. We have a poster on another thread from a state where restaurants have no restrictions, but he said they are half empty anyway. As long as people are concerned about the virus, businesses are going to be hurt, restrictions or not.
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