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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 198 39.52%
No 254 50.70%
Unsure 49 9.78%
Voters: 501. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-27-2024, 06:51 PM
 
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I said a few months ago that if France wants to get some revenge for the humiliation it suffered in Africa, Ukraine is where it can hurt Putin.
France is an exploiter of Africa. Yes, Russia is a corrupt country too.
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Old 02-27-2024, 09:26 PM
 
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France got booted out of Africa thanks to old connections with Russia and mercenaries.
As of that stupidity that Macaron said... the rest of his colleagues immediately crossed away from his words with both hands.
No, Europe does not want to get into direct war with Russia.
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Old 02-27-2024, 09:47 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Russia has now lost 2 SU-34s today.
There were only 128 ever produced. Factoring in the age of the oldest units, combat life and numbers of SU-34s destroyed, it is estimated that Russia has 60-70 still able to fly.
But at the current rate, that's only about 60 days.


No word yet on exactly what is taking them down. About 28 have been shot down since the war started; about half of them in the last month.
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Old 02-27-2024, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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No, Europe does not want to get into direct war with Russia.
Correct, the Whitehouse ruled out Macon's silly statements. The west cannot get dragged into another costly war.

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The U.S. has categorically rejected suggestions by French President Emmanuel Macron that Western troops could be sent to fight on the ground in Ukraine.

It came after Macron set off a firestorm by refusing to rule out the dispatch of Western forces.

White House spokesman John Kirby said France was a 'sovereign nation' which, like any other NATO country, could make its own decision on whether to send troops to Ukraine.

But he added: 'The only U.S. military personnel in Ukraine are associated with the embassy...The president's been clear. There's not going to be U.S. troops on the ground.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ng-troops.html
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Old 02-28-2024, 04:54 AM
 
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Is France going to send in all their Arabs/North Africans that have taken over their culture/country?
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Old 02-28-2024, 05:06 AM
 
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https://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-con...KeyResults.pdf

Poll question: What would you say are the most important issues facing the country today?

Israel comes in at 6% and Ukraine doesn't even register.

Americans simply do not care what happens over there.

Immigration is 36%
Inflation is 33%
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Old 02-28-2024, 05:26 AM
 
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https://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-con...KeyResults.pdf

Poll question: What would you say are the most important issues facing the country today?

Israel comes in at 6% and Ukraine doesn't even register.

Americans simply do not care what happens over there.

Immigration is 36%
Inflation is 33%
No, it's not like two years ago during the week of "thoughts and prayers" and putting the Ukrainian flag in their profile picture. It's gone the way of COVID, still an issue but no one worries about it anymore and not as bad as it was then.
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Old 02-28-2024, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Durham NC
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Is France going to send in all their Arabs/North Africans that have taken over their culture/country?
Rimshot.
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Old 02-28-2024, 05:59 AM
 
Location: Durham NC
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Correct, the Whitehouse ruled out Macon's silly statements. The west cannot get dragged into another costly war.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ng-troops.html
I had to read that twice. We are funding the Ukranian govt paying salaries bribes cable TV the whole ball of wax already. But yeah we're not already dragged into this neocon wet dream.
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Old 02-28-2024, 06:29 AM
 
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Is this an admission that Ukraine are losing?

I have to presume the leaders of these western countries know somethings that we do not.
Such as weapon orders & deliveries timelines, Ukraine troop numbers and recruits/training numbers and timelines, buildup of Russian troops etc.

They are showing clear signs of panic.
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