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View Poll Results: Have you ever been forced to give up your privacy for a man (men) claiming to be trans?
I'm a woman and nothing like this has ever happened to me 51 61.45%
I'm a woman and I think I may have had to share with a trans guy 0 0%
I'm a woman and I had to share with a regular guy claiming to be trans 7 8.43%
I'm a woman and I don't even pay attention to this kind of stuff 9 10.84%
I'm a man and I could tell you some amazing stories (share them if you want) 16 19.28%
Voters: 83. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-18-2022, 03:49 PM
 
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My stance on this is that students who are (usually by default) not transitioned, should use unisex facilities. Asking more than that is tone deaf and inappropriate, as all people deserve the right to safety and privacy.

Non transitioned bio males should not compete in women’s sports.

No one should be punished for expressing their opinion.

Extremists do NO ONE any favours. Especially not other gender non conforming people who just want to live a safe life.
Asking non transitioned students to use unisex facilities, asking them to stick to the sport of their bio sex earns you the title of TERF and Bigot and an extremist in today’s world. Congrats! You’ve been fighting with me at every opportunity even though my position on these issues is the same. Very weird.
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Old 11-18-2022, 03:50 PM
 
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Does that mean you don’t care about anything because you did imply that those of us who have not started a thread about incarcerated women must not care?


I’m so glad you approve and so glad you will be watching me to see if I continue to meet your approval.
I never said anything about starting threads, that’s your current obsession.

I said, I’ve never seen you express concern for women being sexually assaulted in prison unless it’s by transgender inmates.

So again, I’m glad you’re concerned about all the other ways they’re abused, and I look forward to your continued advocacy on their behalf. It’s admirable to advocate for the protection of vulnerable women no matter where they are or what they may have done.
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Old 11-18-2022, 03:55 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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This 14 year old girl was suspended for sharing that she was uncomfortable with a boy in the locker room which the girls were changing. Her Dad was suspended from his job as a soccer coach for “misgendering” the same boy. Why don’t the girls feelings matter at all?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-bathroom.html
Anyone who feels uncomfortable absolutely has a right to not only to speak up but be heard.

https://youtu.be/flIM3AUyQ3A
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Old 11-18-2022, 03:56 PM
 
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I never said anything about starting threads, that’s your current obsession.

I said, I’ve never seen you express concern for women being sexually assaulted in prison unless it’s by transgender inmates.

So again, I’m glad you’re concerned about all the other ways they’re abused, and I look forward to your continued advocacy on their behalf. It’s admirable to advocate for the protection of vulnerable women no matter where they are or what they may have done.
I haven’t seen you express that concern either until this thread. Very weird.
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Old 11-18-2022, 03:58 PM
 
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Asking non transitioned students to use unisex facilities, asking them to stick to the sport of their bio sex earns you the title of TERF and Bigot and an extremist in today’s world. Congrats! You’ve been fighting with me at every opportunity even though my position on these issues is the same. Very weird.
You assume an awful lot and don’t actually listen.

I express my opinion. Which is nuanced and not straight down the line in many of these circumstances, and at odds with some of yours.

I think some things are appropriate and some aren’t. I’m not a hardliner, I think there’s two sides that deserve consideration. In depends, in other words.

This is a discussion forum. I’m discussing. That’s what we do here.
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Old 11-18-2022, 03:59 PM
 
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I haven’t seen you express that concern either until this thread. Very weird.
Not weird at all. I’m not using these women’s pain to further my anti trans agenda. That’s what I object to.
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Old 11-18-2022, 04:03 PM
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The whole thread is absurd - the majority of women would feel uncomfortable having a male - be they a reg male or transgender in their dressing areas, bathroom ect. Due to the climate in today's society it could ne more prevalent than in the past. People up to no good could very well use the trans argument to access women's locker rooms and bathrooms making it a concern for women. Who ever doesn't understand that is a fool.
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Old 11-18-2022, 04:07 PM
 
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Not weird at all. I’m not using these women’s pain to further my anti trans agenda. That’s what I object to.
Who’s pain am I using? Please clarify this odd statement. I’m a woman who has my own experiences.

Are you saying I can’t speak for women in jail who are being raped because I am not one of them?

You’re more outraged at me for having an opinion you don’t like than you are about women being put in increased danger due to these types of policies and laws that allow increased access to women’s facilities to men.
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Old 11-18-2022, 04:13 PM
 
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The whole thread is absurd - the majority of women would feel uncomfortable having a male - be they a reg male or transgender in their dressing areas, bathroom ect. Due to the climate in today's society it could ne more prevalent than in the past. People up to no good could very well use the trans argument to access women's locker rooms and bathrooms making it a concern for women. Who ever doesn't understand that is a fool.
You’re right, the majority would feel very uncomfortable if they experienced this but they won’t admit it. That would make them a bigot or a transphobe and quite frankly, a bad liberal.. They enjoy looking down at those of us who have expressed concern. We are worthy of their scorn. All because we care about women’s rights to privacy and safety.
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Old 11-18-2022, 04:16 PM
 
Location: FL & NC
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Who’s pain am I using? Please clarify this odd statement. I’m a woman who has my own experiences.

Are you saying I can’t speak for women in jail who are being raped because I am not one of them?

You’re more outraged at me for having an opinion you don’t like than you are about women being put in increased danger due to these types of policies and laws that allow increased access to women’s facilities to men.
It's pointless. They speak in circles. The levels of cognitive dissonance won't really let them see or think clearly. They cannot directly counter any argument with logic and reason so they go off on some nonsensical rant about unrelated topics or just repeat the same talking points over and over again. You can't have a real discussion with people like that.
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