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Yeah, that's not what I see. Quite the opposite. The ones that seem most successful treat women like regular people, closer to friends than assets.
This disconnect seems apparent for young people. "Successful" looks like having lots of sex. Young people are stupid (really inexperienced) and bravado can be mistaken by girls for confidence. So early on it looks like "players" are more "successful". Read: they get laid. Just like most "players" grow up and realize that that is not much fun and is eventually empty and meaningless, girls grow up and realize what confidence really looks like. When the desire to have a relationship happens, either players or people who came to idolize players either grow up themselves or get stuck in youthful stupidity.
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This disconnect seems apparent for young people. "Successful" looks like having lots of sex. Young people are stupid (really inexperienced) and bravado can be mistaken by girls for confidence. So early on it looks like "players" are more "successful". Read: they get laid. Just like most "players" grow up and realize that that is not much fun and is eventually empty and meaningless, girls grow up and realize what confidence really looks like. When the desire to have a relationship happens, either players or people who came to idolize players either grow up themselves or get stuck in youthful stupidity.
I can see that perspective, I'm sure I thought that way when I was a kid too.
I can see that perspective, I'm sure I thought that way when I was a kid too.
I think this is evident in a lot of threads here. In our youth, we have experiences that color our view of the other gender. Some of us get stuck in the mindset of evaluating "women" and "men" based on these early experiences. These people are destined (doomed?) to lack of success because relationships are based on two PEOPLE on two instances of gender. If a person cannot get past measuring their past experiences and conclusions based on gender, they are unlikely to form personal relationships.
Just because it didn't work for you, doesn't mean it hasn't, or won't work for others. It's clearly worked for plenty of other people, and a lot have met people through it.
And regarding the stigma, don't you think it would work the other way around as well? If what you said is true, then most women wouldn't use it or go on dates with people from it.
Personally, OLD has worked out way better for me than IRL.
It works best for guys in certain cities such as you in New York. You could take your exact profile and change your location to Las Vegas or something and you would probably have a totally different experience. I do way better in RL and that's how I got into all of my relationships in the past. There has to be a reason for that...the disparity doesn't really make sense. Some guys just have the magical profile for their area that tickles the women there such as having the right trendy buzzword degrees and occupations and so on. In areas that are more blue collar the guys that are rougher looking or have a certain look and have a job in the oil and gas industry or something will do better.
Woa. I did not get the memo on what degree is trendy these days. I must be missing out. Can someone please tell me the trending degree so I may date properly? I am in the North East of the US btw. Thanks.
Woa. I did not get the memo on what degree is trendy these days. I must be missing out. Can someone please tell me the trending degree so I may date properly? I am in the North East of the US btw. Thanks.
In the NE metros probably STEM jobs and degrees. Whatever the for-profit schools are brainwashing people to get into.
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Far be it from me to argue with men who are not getting dates what we women who do go on dates prefer!
Occupation and degree is 2 of the main things women look at on OLD profiles, ergo, assessment of social and socioeconomic status. They have done surveys on all of this I hope you realize. It stands to reason in certain areas people with a certain job and/or degree may do better based on just that alone. What I originally said is true location is a big part of success for men in regards to OLD.
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