if she/he says he has genital herpes... deal breaker? (girlfriends, child)
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I was making a point that everyone freaking out here about this virus is making a bigger deal about it than it deserves, and more than likely, many here criticizing the woman from the OP have probably been exposed to it some point without even knowing it or showing symptoms of it.
But yes, let's talk about all the papers you wrote.
Hey, I only talk about stuff I know. You won't catch me on any automotive forums. I know what I know, and I know what I don't know, and if what I know is good enough to pay the bills, it's good enough for City-Data.
But I agree that some are blowing it out of proportion, and poetic justice being what it is...
Yet I would refrain from getting into bed with someone who knows he has it, for reasons I explained upthread. But also, I really don't think I could enjoy the experience. I'd be worried the whole time, "Am I going to get it? Am I going to get it?" My mental block, sure, but I know my limits, too. This one is not worth overcoming.
I wouldn't get intimate with someone who has knowledge of them having it. I also wouldn't be going anywhere near someone intimately who shows signs of it.
I dont really care how many people have it or do not have it, I know I don't want to give it to myself and that's all that really matters.
Being cautious won't elemeinate the chances of catching anything on variables alone., but it sure as hell is a better route than throwing all caution to the wind.
Aside from this being socially irresponsible medicine that takes needed resources away from those who do need reproductive health care, are you going to pay for it? And then are you going to pay for all the people who freak out and want a second test to confirm? And for all the unnecessary treatment for those who have never, and most likely will never, have outbreaks? And because that therapy has side effects that often need treatment, not the least of which are raging headaches, will you be pitching in for all of that, too?
Look, folks, unless you are talking about two people who have never so much as kissed someone else, pretty much all sexual contact is a hedged bet to one degree or another. It's a matter of calculated risk. There are reasons everyone from the CDC to different physicians' groups do not recommend herpes testing as part of a standard STD panel. Blanket statements like "everyone should get tested" help no one.
I'm just waiting for one of you to inadvertently post something I've written professionally about this. You'd be surprised, especially because much of it is not bylined, but is out there in circulation as standard.
I'm waiting for one of them to post something I've copyedited on the subject, myself.
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Speaking for myself, all I have to do is ask my doctor to request labwork of any kind the next time I am at a scheduled visit (quarterly for me because of a chronic condition).
But I have good insurance. $25 copay for my doctors visit and any labwork is covered by that primary doctors copay, nothing out of pocket for me for labs.
I suppose if I freaked out and had sex with some nasty without protection and wanted to get a test ASAP, I would have to come up with $25 out of pocket "out of cycle"... tough life
Luckily I am in a LTR with a clean woman and dont have to worry about STD's or protection or any such nonsense
The spooky part here is that you think that you can identify "some nasty" on sight.
I hope you stay in that LTR (and neither of you seeks sex outside the relationship without informing the other) because you're really at risk with that mentality if you don't.
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Hey, I only talk about stuff I know. You won't catch me on any automotive forums. I know what I know, and I know what I don't know, and if what I know is good enough to pay the bills, it's good enough for City-Data.
But I agree that some are blowing it out of proportion, and poetic justice being what it is...
Yet I would refrain from getting into bed with someone who knows he has it, for reasons I explained upthread. But also, I really don't think I could enjoy the experience. I'd be worried the whole time, "Am I going to get it? Am I going to get it?" My mental block, sure, but I know my limits, too. This one is not worth overcoming.
That last paragraph is exactly why I wouldn't want to date someone who had it. I'd have to have fallen in some pretty major love with that person and we'd have to be talking marriage and all that before I could even consider it seriously.
This is just a thought exercise because I'm already married, but you get my point.
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Except that's not what you said at all. From your first post: "I met someone a couple years ago on OKC, went out on 3 dates, kissed her with tongue on the 3rd date, felt her up at the end of the night, she pulled away and told me "not yet"... and we left it at that."
"Felt her up" does not imply to me that you were down her pants. You can "spin" this however you want, but now your story has changed so I call BS on the whole thing.
Yes, ^^^, exactly!!!
Sounds like he's worried his tongue got up on something else or maybe he's the one that's dirty. After all we all know you look at someone who's nasty, dirty and has a disease (like herp or AIDS) and just see it. They just look NASTY.
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Aside from this being socially irresponsible medicine that takes needed resources away from those who do need reproductive health care, are you going to pay for it? And then are you going to pay for all the people who freak out and want a second test to confirm? And for all the unnecessary treatment for those who have never, and most likely will never, have outbreaks? And because that therapy has side effects that often need treatment, not the least of which are raging headaches, will you be pitching in for all of that, too?
Look, folks, unless you are talking about two people who have never so much as kissed someone else, pretty much all sexual contact is a hedged bet to one degree or another. It's a matter of calculated risk. There are reasons everyone from the CDC to different physicians' groups do not recommend herpes testing as part of a standard STD panel. Blanket statements like "everyone should get tested" help no one.
I'm just waiting for one of you to inadvertently post something I've written professionally about this. You'd be surprised, especially because much of it is not bylined, but is out there in circulation as standard.
You don't have to have a sketchy lifestyle to get it.
Yeah, I have to second this. While you *can* get it as a result of a sketchy lifestyle, you can also get it if you were a virgin your whole life and married someone who had it. All it takes is one sexual partner who has it and that's it.
I have to confess, I am fuzzy on this part, but you can also get it as a baby if your mother has it (and is having an outbreak). I am not sure if it's still considered and passed like the STD, but you have it the rest of your life then too. You can't tell me a newborn has a sketchy lifestyle (although when you think of it, those little folks are quick to hit the bottle and have a lot of trouble walking).
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