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Not precisely on topic, but "rape" is always the wrong word to use when talking about anything other than rape. It's repugnant and it wrecks your argument.
It shouldn't have to be said, but thank you for that.
Is that what happened to you? Are you an older gentleman? It hasn't been called alimony for YEARS. Decades even. If your papers indicated spousal support I'm sure it would be ingrained in your mind and read over and over. I hate when men just parrot what their buddy said, what happened to the guy down the street, just crap with no facts.
Child support is based on a formula including your income, it's the same for everyone! You aren't forced to pay anything that hasn't been reached by a fair and equitable formula, whether you're a man or a WOMAN.
Really?
I want to alert you to something known as the IRS Tax Year 2016 Form 1040.
Apparently the IRS never got the memo regarding that word.
When my sister got divorced from a man who checked out of their marriage and wasn't much of a husband she told me that she tried her best every day, but that she was 45 and couldn't imagine living 30 more years with a man who took her for granted. Do you think that because he didn't hit her or cheat that she should have sucked it up and been miserable for the rest of her life?
So he took her for granted and nothing else? That could've easily been worked out. As soon as any problem rises in a relationship people just want to bail instead of working things out. I call that the easy way out.
I want to alert you to something known as the IRS Tax Year 2016 Form 1040.
Apparently the IRS never got the memo regarding that word.
During divorce proceedings is what I am referring to, I don't mean anywhere in the universe, I was talking about what one is ordered to pay.
Look at your papers, are you ordered to pay 'alimony' or spousal support.
Rhetorical, it wasn't my point and it's not the topic of this thread.
So he took her for granted and nothing else? That could've easily been worked out. As soon as any problem rises in a relationship people just want to bail instead of working things out. I call that the easy way out.
You don't know what happened. Maybe they tried to work it out thoroughly, but nothing came to fruition. I like how you assume they just bailed at the first sign of issues.
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Yes I do believe that. I know I am going to get my head bitten off but I truly believe that.
Well, I guess everyone is entitled to an "opinion" (no matter how insane it is )
You don't know what happened. Maybe they tried to work it out thoroughly, but nothing came to fruition. I like how you assume they just bailed at the first sign of issues.
In my sister's case, her ex didn't feel like anything needed to be worked out. He thought counseling was pointless, and all of his needs were getting met, so why change anything? Anybody saying that she made her bed when she was 25 and needed to live like that forever is being cruel. After their divorce, my sister is a much happier, optimistic person. Funny how losing a 200-lb ball and chain will do that to a person.
In my sister's case, her ex didn't feel like anything needed to be worked out. He thought counseling was pointless, and all of his needs were getting met, so why change anything?
At the risk of playing devil's advocate, the guy was onto something about counseling. Most marriage counselors---make that all of them---automatically take the wife's side. They probably do it out of misguided sympathy. Or to funnel clients to the divorce lawyers they collude with. Or maybe it's just their business model. Either way, the guy knew that very well. Granted, it may be his fault after all, but that doesn't change what marriage counselors do. I, personally, would never go to a marriage counselor. Why pay $100+ an hour out of my own pocket only to get blamed for everything?
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So he took her for granted and nothing else? That could've easily been worked out. As soon as any problem rises in a relationship people just want to bail instead of working things out. I call that the easy way out.
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You don't know what happened. Maybe they tried to work it out thoroughly, but nothing came to fruition. I like how you assume they just bailed at the first sign of issues.
Well, I guess everyone is entitled to an "opinion" (no matter how insane it is )
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In my sister's case, her ex didn't feel like anything needed to be worked out. He thought counseling was pointless, and all of his needs were getting met, so why change anything? Anybody saying that she made her bed when she was 25 and needed to live like that forever is being cruel. After their divorce, my sister is a much happier, optimistic person. Funny how losing a 200-lb ball and chain will do that to a person.
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At the risk of playing devil's advocate, the guy was onto something about counseling. Most marriage counselors---make that all of them---automatically take the wife's side. They probably do it out of misguided sympathy. Or to funnel clients to the divorce lawyers they collude with. Or maybe it's just their business model. Either way, the guy knew that very well. Granted, it may be his fault after all, but that doesn't change what marriage counselors do. I, personally, would never go to a marriage counselor. Why pay $100+ an hour out of my own pocket only to get blamed for everything?
For those that are single, it is best to try to be as content as possible. Nothing is guaranteed. I believe in marriage, it is important for both people involved to do their part to make it work. Being taken for granted is definitely a bad thing for both people involved in the relationships.
If it is true that marriage counselors are more tipped in the favor of the woman, then that is unfortunate, at the same time, I am not the least bit surprised.
During divorce proceedings is what I am referring to, I don't mean anywhere in the universe, I was talking about what one is ordered to pay.
Look at your papers, are you ordered to pay 'alimony' or spousal support.
Rhetorical, it wasn't my point and it's not the topic of this thread.
Family law is a state law matter. Last I looked, the US has 50 states, some of which still call it alimony. The fact that your state (MN?) apparently does not, does not make the people who live in states that still use the word "alimony" in their state statutes wrong for using the word that is still legally correct for their particular situation. Why is that so hard to grasp? You were insulting a person for being wildly out of date using the word alimony, but he's probably in a state where it's still called that.
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