Why do sceptics and atheists post on this and other (gospels, hell)
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Firth, “It’s not a personal battle”? Actually, often it is.
In this thread, yes, it clearly is. In the ‘real world’, it’s (more effectively) a collective battle relative to our rights/equality. There is nothing to win/gain relative to the fact our choice is more logical (or by way of an incessant need to prove/argue such, either).
Ok, so you said “not do bad things.” I suppose you argue that does not mean do good things. So have you observed evidence where religious power has stopped people from doing bad things?
The concept is simple, if people do use religion to dictate how to live part of their life, then they will do so whether the result is good or bad. So if the religious message focuses on doing good, then religion becomes a force for good. Which is why I have no problem with moderate Christianity.
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Originally Posted by cb2008
I did not make any statements about religion declining or growing. You did.
I know, and you responded as if you do not know or have an opinion. So I asked for clarification.
I’m confusing you/Phet, because your comments//personal assumptions are often very similar. That said, you’re not grasping my point relative to ‘group-think’ and the importance of thinking for one’s self - particularly since I’m an atheist in a professional environment (whether you agree with me or not).
Group think is irrelevant to why or what I post. Apart from the science, many of my arguments are my own based on logic, mathematics and doing my own historical research. And once again, my posts are for those who want to evaluate the relative merits of the different arguments for themselves.
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Originally Posted by CorporateCowboy
That you want to perceive me as being hurt is relative to (the protection of) your own ego, not mine - as are most of your posts relative to this thread, for that matter. It’s not about me (or my atheism).
Yet you are the one making this all about you. You have an opinion that is irrelevant to me, or why I post here, so you pretend I am missing your point.
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Originally Posted by CorporateCowboy
This only confirms my point you think in terms of an angry forum-mentality sans an understanding relative to real world communication and acceptance re: the rights of theists to believe as they please, as long as we aren’t being forced to do the same. It’s crazy, from my perspective, there are atheists who act similarly arrogant/forceful, particularly relative to this thread (and fail to see the irony). Who cares if we have an elderly Aunt who prays? It’s not a personal battle, despite those who want to make it so by way of their own anger.
It only confirms your point if you ignore what I actually wrote. And you have. OK, your ego wins, me accepting the right for the religious to believe what they will is for some reason an angry forum-mentality saying the exact opposite. Because this has nothing to do with you wanting to be right.
First of all, we’re not in a chance meeting on the street, or in court, or in a boardroom.
Even if it was, I would still respond the same way, and I have never had a problem. The difference is here we discuss things we do not normally discuss in real life.
Another thing is that there is a greater chance of confusing who said what, so it may be that I am being attacked for what someone else said.
I know, and you responded as if you do not know or have an opinion. So I asked for clarification.
I have lots of opinions
I believe religion will not diminish. What will happen, and i think is happening, is definition of religion will change. The influence of Eastern thought and spiritual practices that are being discovered and adopted by many who come from Abrahamic religions. Organized religions will transform to community gatherings for prayer and meditation, and social work, which is already happening. How one prays will change. All of this will nave a beneficial effect on the environment, climate change, farming and animal husbandry, housing, even corporate culture. This too is evident if you notice.
That is my opinion.
You have an opinion that is irrelevant to me, or why I post here, so you pretend I am missing your point.
You clearly are missing my point, lol. That someone prays or believes in a god is irrelevant to me - and to (the promotion of) atheism, as a whole. Hence the reason I consider it foolish to make it a personal battle/spectacle in threads such as this one. That said, enjoy!
You clearly are missing my point, lol. That someone prays or believes in a god is irrelevant to me - and to (the promotion of) atheism, as a whole. Hence the reason I consider it foolish to make it a personal battle/spectacle in threads such as this one. That said, enjoy!
Everybody isn't required to agree with you. Several of us do not.
All of us would! I once woke from a very vivid dream in which the area behind my childhood home, now occupied by four large houses, was restored to the field it had been when I was a kid. There was the clearing where daisies proliferated in summer, and the paths through the wooded areas with the viney bushes that formed a tent under which I would retreat with a book. I was amazed that it was back in every detail. I walked down the path I until suddenly I noticed that under one viney bush sat...Al Sharpton.
I asked him why he was there, and he said he was sick of the press hounding him and needed a rest. He asked me not to tell anyone where he was.
Woke up from that one thinking, hmm, the idea that dreams can be your brain throwing out bits and pieces of garbage might be right.
Exactly, and theists aren’t required to agree with us; this is the entire point, lol. Hence the reason I stated I considered the constant personal battles (relative to this sort of thread) a foolish spectacle; I never said you/Harry thought so. Obviously, those who partake in such are not going to agree with me.
That said, you enjoy as well! ;-)
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