04-13-2011, 04:50 PM
Location: Manhattan Island
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Alaskapat528
Sounds like the OP would be a better fit for Vermont.
ARGGGHHH!!! I hate this so much, that Vermont has become the epitome of the snobby type of uber-liberal ideals that we are seeing here. What is the deal with that? I have spent plenty of time in Vermont, and I didn't find it to be AT ALL like some kind of urban-liberal haven like I'm hearing described. Of course, I tend to avoid Burlington and Brattleboro for that reason, but I dunno. Maybe it's because where I live is such a hippie-liberal utopian paradise type of place that I have become desensitized to that nonsense. It just kills me that whenever uber-liberalism and looking-down-your-nose political ideals are brought up, Vermont is recommended. The old-time Vermonters I know are already appalled at what is happening there, let's stop sending more of them! Vermont and Alaska (and Maine if I could land a job) are the only three places I want to live, and I was hoping to escape from the obnoxious, in-your-face urban liberal attitude. I had thought about doing New Hampshire because it's generally more conservative, but the landscape and climate in Vermont are much more desirable.
I have no problem with liberals, and I am what you might call socially liberal in that I believe in equal rights (on ALL issues) for ALL people, but the intentionally in-your-face, "you're ignorant because you're not an awesome liberal like me", that whole mentality is not only silly, it's disrespectful. What's funny about that specific breed of liberals (and conservatives for that matter) is that they claim to be all about tolerance, but they can't tolerate anyone who doesn't live the way they do. If you're raising your voice loudly to a group of hunters about how wrong they are for hunting, I would say you have got things WAY out of perspective. My political stance is, basically, "Live and let live."
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Yeah, as a member of PETA, I have to say I disagree.
You do realize that there are very few activist groups as hypocritical and corrupt as PETA, right? Last I knew, the only people who took PETA seriously were PETA members themselves. I have a slightly different opinion about their scantily-clad advertising, though...
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04-13-2011, 04:58 PM
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Vermont and Alaska (and Maine if I could land a job) are the only three places I want to live, and I was hoping to escape from the obnoxious, in-your-face urban liberal attitude.
You'll escape it in Alaska, and not because the place is full of neocons but because the type of liberalism that you describe--the urban, superficial kind--simply does not work here.
04-13-2011, 05:03 PM
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Annie, this is simply wrong and it's the type of attitude that if you portray in person will get you disliked in Alaska fairly quickly:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/arizo...ood-bad-2.html
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Alaska and Arizona are kinda the same attitude, of "I've got mine, so stay out of my business, except when it comes to raising MY taxes, Jack! I am here for MYSELF" Just look in the Alaska thread like yours I started! I was censored though in this post, so you will have to look it up yourself.
You have not been to Alaska and here you are acting like an expert in the Arizona forum. For shame.
04-13-2011, 05:06 PM
Location: Deltana, AK
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...yawn... The conflict in this thread doesn't really warrant this much discussion. Met and Annie are both abrasive (and really, do either of you take that as an insult?). From the way Annie talks, she will have a tough time getting along in Alaska (fact, not an arguable point), and would probably be better off looking into the well established, scenic, progressive smaller towns and cities in the western states (Portland, Bend, Olympia, Missoula, Boulder, etc). In Alaska I'd think she'd feel most comfortable in Homer, and would find a like minded community in Anchorage, Juneau, west Fairbanks (Ester), and Haines at least. Maybe some of the other coastal towns too.
04-13-2011, 05:07 PM
Location: Homer Alaska
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Yup-just way to beautiful of a day to spend arguing about anything. I have seeds to plant and seedlings to shift around-keeping my eyes peeled for those darn hungry moose!
04-13-2011, 05:09 PM
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Yup-just way to beautiful of a day to spend arguing about anything. I have seeds to plant and seedlings to shift around-keeping my eyes peeled for those darn hungry moose!
It's pouring down rain here and quite cold. I'm doing exactly what I want to be doing just now---nothing
04-13-2011, 05:10 PM
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That's a piece of (vegan) cake:
From your last time around.
http://www.city-data.com/forum/alask...ot-them-7.html
Most of your stuff in that thread was of course deleted.
But there are those of us who were around at that time.
Good luck to you, Annie. Personally I think this thread is moot because I doubt you'll move here.
I can't say what I really want to on this forum towards you, personally. Just imagine it then. YOU are not..the INTERNET POLICE. Did I start anything AT ALL with anyone, when I started THIS PARTICULAR THREAD????
NO . So I kindly ask you to..oh you know.
04-13-2011, 05:13 PM
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Annie, this is simply wrong and it's the type of attitude that if you portray in person will get you disliked in Alaska fairly quickly:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/arizo...ood-bad-2.html
You have not been to Alaska and here you are acting like an expert in the Arizona forum. For shame.
I do know Arizona well, and you are trolling me, as usual. I dare you to dispute the facts I posted in the Arizona forums. Have you lived there? Well, I have, extensively. I keep up with politics, everywhere.
04-13-2011, 05:13 PM
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...yawn... The conflict in this thread doesn't really warrant this much discussion. Met and Annie are both abrasive (and really, do either of you take that as an insult? ). From the way Annie talks, she will have a tough time getting along in Alaska (fact, not an arguable point), and would probably be better off looking into the well established, scenic, progressive smaller towns and cities in the western states (Portland, Bend, Olympia, Missoula, Boulder, etc). In Alaska I'd think she'd feel most comfortable in Homer, and would find a like minded community in Anchorage, Juneau, west Fairbanks (Ester), and Haines at least. Maybe some of the other coastal towns too.
No; don't take it as an insult myself.
Portland might work out well for her but apparently she has some aversions towards Oregon; the work situation there is pretty rough as well from what I understand and I don't get the sense that she's a trustie.
04-13-2011, 05:15 PM
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I do know Arizona well, and you are trolling me, as usual. I dare you to dispute the facts I posted in the Arizona forums. Have you lived there? Well, I have, extensively. I keep up with politics, everywhere.
Actually I was talking referencing Alaska, which you don't know well.
And yes, I have lived in AZ. Sedona was beautiful but way too full of new age clowns for my tastes.
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People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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