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Old 12-10-2012, 09:29 PM
 
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I'd have been fine in all 3.
At best, only ONE is right. And if you choose to believe the wrong thing, you're going to hell, remember.

Still sure you choose wisely??
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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At best, only ONE is right. And if you choose to believe the wrong thing, you're going to hell, remember.

Still sure you choose wisely??
Church membership has nothing to do with eternal destiny. Faith in Christ's redemptive work does. All three churches listed believe that, as do virtually all churches that call themselves Christian.
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:39 PM
 
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At best, only ONE is right. And if you choose to believe the wrong thing, you're going to hell, remember.

Still sure you choose wisely??
Nope. All 3 believe the same thing regarding salvation.
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:53 PM
 
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Nope. All 3 believe the same thing regarding salvation.
Assuming you're right (and clearly, you are not, for if they did they would not be 3 different sects), what if all of them are wrong?
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:55 PM
 
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Assuming you're right (and clearly, you are not, for if they did they would not be 3 different sects), what if all of them are wrong?
They differ in minor details, such as worship style or music choices, not in regard to salvation.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:03 PM
 
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Assuming you're right (and clearly, you are not, for if they did they would not be 3 different sects), what if all of them are wrong?
You do realize that churches sometimes split for non-doctrinal reasons, right? Do you have a clue what Evangelical Free churches teach? Or Baptist churches? You seem to have a hatred for religion in general, so I wouldn't be surprised if you couldn't tell the difference between E Free and Mormonism.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:22 PM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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It may not add up to 30,000, but there's a metric ton of them. And they disagree about a great many things! While it should come as no surprise to you that I don't think any of them have it right, consider this... The best case scenario is that one, and only one, does.

List of Christian denominations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Nice to hear that there are some people who admit (despite their skepticism of Christianity) that the 30,000 number is an exageration.

But that list itself is not accurate, for just because some one claims the title doesn't make one so. Doctrine matters. And what one professes aka " I believe _______ " (or another word for that is "creed" ) matters. A good number of those on that list are not which historically Christianity defined itself and reserved for itself the title based on certian doctrines.

Which probably why the wanna be's are found on a list from Wikipedia ......
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:14 AM
 
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Default Love doesn't get you to heaven.

Pleroo, pcamps, sparrow, Christy . . . my friends, sorry I have been away. There is a lot to read through. It seems the fundies have been having a field day in this thread . . . not understanding agape love. Not everyone loves in the way Christ meant and demonstrated. It is only when we love the way Christ did that we are "in Christ" . . . and Christ is manifesting within us. If we follow the guidance of Christ within . . . (His Holy Spirit as the Comforter) . . . we will love as He did. When we do . . . we resonate in some imperfect harmonic of His perfect agape love. That is what elevates our Spirit and makes it acceptable to God under Christ's grace.
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:19 AM
 
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Pleroo, pcamps, sparrow, Christy . . . my friends, sorry I have been away. There is a lot to read through. It seems the fundies have been having a field day in this thread . . . not understanding agape love. Not everyone loves in the way Christ meant and demonstrated. It is only when we love the way Christ did that we are "in Christ" . . . and Christ is manifesting within us. If we follow the guidance of Christ within . . . (His Holy Spirit as the Comforter) . . . we will love as He did. When we do . . . we resonate in some imperfect harmonic of His perfect agape love. That is what elevates our Spirit and makes it acceptable to God under Christ's grace.
Why do you believe Christ had to die? What did it accomplish?
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:29 AM
 
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Why do you believe Christ had to die? What did it accomplish?
We all have to die, Vizio. Christ did not have to die when nor as horrendously as He did . . . except for the ignorance, barbarity and superstition of our ancestors. It was because of their superstitious and barbaric religious beliefs resulting from their ignorance and sinful nature . . . that Christ suffered torture and crucifixion for His message of God's love for us all. That is what the phrase, "He died for our sins" actually means. He died "because of" our sins. The word translated as "for" actually means "because of."

The significance of His death and rebirth as Spirit (resurrection) is to establish that no longer will we be separated from God or without God's constant guidance as our ancestors were. They had sporadic guidance through prophets sensitive to the Holy Spirit of God. But once Christ died . . . His perfect human Holy Spirit (identical to God's) joined the collective human consciousness. It has been available since Christ's rebirth to all of us within our consciousness to guide us to what God has "written in our hearts."
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