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I was responding to a person that was arguing that we keep our salvation by doing good works. In light of that, one must ask the question -- how much is required in order to keep it.
Yes--Christians SHOULD do good works...but we are not saved, nor do we need to continue to maintain our salvation by doing so.
Good works are not a requirement of salvation, you are right. But were it is written , that the gift is eternal salvation or eternal life outside of Christ, because the gift of God is Jesus Himself. We have to receive Him not only as Saviour, but as Lord, to do His will. In this way He becomes the author of eternal salvation, who obeyes Him (Heb 5:9).
Eternal salvation is a hope and inheritance for them that endure to the end and die in Christ (Heb 3:6). The condition is to remain in Christ to have eternal life, because He is eternal life and salvation. It requires submission to the Holy Spirit to be an overcomer, the opposite is rebellion, the way of the flesh, sin to death leads to destruction, even if a Christian believes in OSAS. This is a wrong faith, the demons also believe and tremble, but Christians have no fear of God and take warnings of Christ lightly (Mat 5:22+29; Luk 12:5).
The one that does not confess his sins and is cleansed and dies in his sins, he is not saved, the bible is clear, who enters the kingdom of God and who not. Only they that are entering the Kingdom receive rewards. God is not the respector of persons, who sins without law will be judged by the law. Be not deceived (1. Cor 6:9; 15:33; Gal 6:7).
Our security is in Jesus Christ and not in the doctrins of men. If some one believes in OSAS and murders people and a pastor confirms him, that he will go to Heaven, because he cannot loose his salvation, they both believe a lie of the Devil and are not saved. Your argument they were not saved in the first place, does not make sense, because who knows who is saved then, if it is true faith or false faith, when they confess Jesus as their Lord and are baptized.
The only condition to get the gift of salvation is to receive Jesus Christ by faith in Him and to remain in Him is eternal salvation, both have nothing to do with good works, baptism or keeping of the law etc, but with faith, that leads to obey Him.
Good works are not a requirement of salvation, you are right. But were it is written , that the gift is eternal salvation or eternal life outside of Christ, because the gift of God is Jesus Himself. We have to receive Him not only as Saviour, but as Lord, to do His will. In this way He becomes the author of eternal salvation, who obeyes Him (Heb 5:9).
Eternal salvation is a hope and inheritance for them that endure to the end and die in Christ (Heb 3:6). The condition is to remain in Christ to have eternal life, because He is eternal life and salvation. It requires submission to the Holy Spirit to be an overcomer, the opposite is rebellion, the way of the flesh, sin to death leads to destruction, even if a Christian believes in OSAS. This is a wrong faith, the demons also believe and tremble, but Christians have no fear of God and take warnings of Christ lightly (Mat 5:22+29; Luk 12:5).
The one that does not confess his sins and is cleansed and dies in his sins, he is not saved, the bible is clear, who enters the kingdom of God and who not. Only they that are entering the Kingdom receive rewards. God is not the respector of persons, who sins without law will be judged by the law. Be not deceived (1. Cor 6:9; 15:33; Gal 6:7).
Our security is in Jesus Christ and not in the doctrins of men. If some one believes in OSAS and murders people and a pastor confirms him, that he will go to Heaven, because he cannot loose his salvation, they both believe a lie of the Devil and are not saved. Your argument they were not saved in the first place, does not make sense, because who knows who is saved then, if it is true faith or false faith, when they confess Jesus as their Lord and are baptized.
The only condition to get the gift of salvation is to receive Jesus Christ by faith in Him and to remain in Him is eternal salvation, both have nothing to do with good works, baptism or keeping of the law etc, but with faith, that leads to obey Him.
Excellent post, Zur
In his Sunday sermon, our Elder Bro. Mike McGee began by reading Psalms 122, 123 and 124, stressing how we need to be able to receive that peace and comfort which comes from being able to have the Holy Spirit. That Spirit makes it possible for all across the land who desire to do the will of our heavenly Father, so that we might be able to stand with confidence when we stand before our Savior at the final Judgment Day. He then took text from John 18:33 through the end of Chapter 20, and closing with passage from Romans 5:16 through the end of Chapter 5. "Will we be prepared by keeping the sayings of our Saviour when we stand before Him at the final Judgment Day?"
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Last edited by Robert M Prince; 03-09-2015 at 08:33 AM..
You are dancing around giving an answer to what YOU think are good works. You use the term and post about such, so what are YOU talking about?
The EXAMPLE that Jesus gave was of a "non-saved" Samaritan who chose to bind up the wounds and pay bills for a stranger. Don't say Jesus didn't consider the man "saved." He did so because He compared the Samaritan to two "bible believers" of His day. Both those men knew the Torah by heart but didn't understand the heart of the Torah.
From that powerful example Jesus certainly appears to be more interested in works than in biblical knowledge or even "believing." On the other hand I expect the injured man had a completely different view of the Samaritan---not because of the Samaritan's faith, but because of his "works."
Salvation is more complicated than anyone thinks. The key to getting a glimpse of it is in Jesus' first and greatest sermon, the Sermon on the Mount. One would think if "faith" was His main message He would have mentioned it at least once in His initial message. Instead He preaches about who is blessed and why--by what they DO.
As I previously noted I do believe faith is part of the message of Jesus. But works are the proof to others and to oneself that faith has taken hold of fertile ground and will yield fruit. No fruit, no seed of faith.
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I am sure it does, nate!!
