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Old 12-11-2018, 11:44 AM
 
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If you want to have that kind of sex, just say so instead of trying to sanctify, sanction, and give it dignity. If you want to use an exit as an entrance, just tell the honest truth instead trying dignify, and glorify it and forcing it on others to make it legal!!!

The rear IS AN EXIT and you CANT turn a Exit into an Entrance...Human nature says its an Exit, that gets rid of waste and basic Biology shows its a waste dump and just the law of human nature.
I’m betting you’ve never had or performed fellatio or cunnilingus?

 
Old 12-11-2018, 01:03 PM
 
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Answers starting right off with conditions.





Completely unfounded assertion. God never said anything about it. My answer? Of course they should have the right to marry the person they love, just like I do.





Another silly comparison to Satanists. My answer? Anybody that joins a church should have the same opportunity to serve as officers.





Once again, Jeff imposes conditions. My answer? Absolutely. Everybody has the right to be treated equally by every commercial business.





My answer? Not just an apartment building. They have the same right I do to live where they want. (I wish the gay guys still lived across the street from me. They took much better care of their home that the current owners do.)





More qualifications. Teachers need to have a license, and day care workers need licensing from heath departments and pass background checks. Once that is accomplished, I'm all for the diversity they bring to our communities. I have no idea what "pro-gay propaganda" is.




I would say it differently. You have to answer "yes" to all of these, without any conditions.
Let's just call it what it is. This is almost 500 pages of bigotry and hatred against Christians and Christianity. It's also very political in nature. Now you're piling on with political talk.
 
Old 12-11-2018, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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but god does work this way, either you sin or you do not sin.

Either you love your neighbor or you do not.

Either you have a relationship with god or you do not.

So does the heterosexual have the "right" to spread pro-heterosexual propaganda?
LOL, who makes up their mind to not sin?

Everyone sins and all flesh will be judged by the law and found guilty by the law, but that is the law of flesh that pertains to an already dying body that will no doubt die because it has already been judged before and is now dying and cursed to death.

The law didn't change but there is another law, there are two laws.

A lot of people talking about how God works, and these same people don't practice or know the religion of God, his law, and how it works.
 
Old 12-11-2018, 01:34 PM
 
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You realize, we hope, that anal sex is a common practice with hetrosexual couples, don't you?
"Heterosexual anal intercourse (HAI) is not an uncommon behavior with 36% of women and 44% of men 25–44 years old in the United States reporting ever having HAI in their lifetime."
Experiencing one time does not make it a common practice. Facts are not on your side. If heterosexuals were engaging in this behavior often then the STDS and HIV contraction rates should overwhelmingly be heterosexual, not homosexual demographics. Instead, 5% of the population that is gay makes up the vast majority of cases. Care to explain that one?


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Who cares about a god or gods? Many of us have stopped believing myths developed by ancient Middle Eastern superstitious, illiterate, desert dwelling goat herders. Mythology can have teachings, but, just like the teachings in the Grimm Brother tales or Harry Potter, that mythology does not consist of history or science.

If you were so secure in your anti-Christian beliefs, you wouldn't feel the need to use degrading terminology to describe people in Biblical times. Evidence actually shows that people back then were highly intelligent inventing things like the Yakhchāl, a means of refrigeration in the desert. The Bible has and still is a great source of wisdom and truth.

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It is always wrong to teach, preach and pass laws against what consenting adults do sexually. As far as adultery is concerned, I am disgusted by it as it destroys a trust and promise to a partner, but that doesn't give it a reason to be illegal. It does, however, not say much about the perpetrator, does it? Interesting enough, adultery is most prevalent in the so called bible belt in the south, as the adultery site, Ashley Madison has shown. Also interesting is that pornography downloads have a higher rate of downloads in the same area.

Ok then you can have no problem with consenting ADULT family members having sexual relations. As for porn and adultry in the Bible belt, more research has to be done before you can conclude anything. All those studies fail to explain the why, and all you do is conclude the worst. I suspect the fact that poverty exists a lot more in those states than other parts of the country plays a role. People stay home a lot, teens bored with nothing to do in small towns. Add in sexual temptation and there ya go.
 
Old 12-11-2018, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Experiencing one time does not make it a common practice. Facts are not on your side. If heterosexuals were engaging in this behavior often then the STDS and HIV contraction rates should overwhelmingly be heterosexual, not homosexual demographics. Instead, 5% of the population that is gay makes up the vast majority of cases. Care to explain that one?




If you were so secure in your anti-Christian beliefs, you wouldn't feel the need to use degrading terminology to describe people in Biblical times. Evidence actually shows that people back then were highly intelligent inventing things like the Yakhchāl, a means of refrigeration in the desert. The Bible has and still is a great source of wisdom and truth.




Ok then you can have no problem with consenting ADULT family members having sexual relations. As for porn and adultry in the Bible belt, more research has to be done before you can conclude anything. All those studies fail to explain the why, and all you do is conclude the worst. I suspect the fact that poverty exists a lot more in those states than other parts of the country plays a role. People stay home a lot, teens bored with nothing to do in small towns. Add in sexual temptation and there ya go.
Incest is not homosexuality, it is not child abuse, it isn't sex with an animal.

You may as well tell the people who break the Sabbath that they are murderers.

The problem Fundies have is not admitting what they do, and allthough they are in a homosexual marriage, they look down on Homosexuals.

It's just a trick, you just don't know it, there is so much spoken about the marriage you are currently in, but you don't even know that you are married, and you don't know that the marriage you are in is a homosexual marriage, and that all those physical laws were only pointing to the spiritual essence of each law, and that we are all found guilty.

Now you claim to be a bride of Christ?

Are you really?

There cannot be two men in a marriage of flesh and spirit, you either beome a submissive virgin to the will of your betrothed, or you remain as a king where you invent your own ways, your own laws, your own worship system sitting in your own temple proving that your word is above the word of God and thus proving yourself to be a God standing against everything called of God or worshipped of God in his commandments and his worship system.

So are you a submissive virgin?

Or is it that you are in a homosexual marriage of flesh and spirit?

The law is there to show redundancy of how everyone is guilty of every single law. We are to die to ourselves daily, we die to our selfishness, our anger and our desires, but we often choose not to, and in doing so, genders have changed, birds have taken flight and horses have bolted.

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Old 12-11-2018, 02:08 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Let's just call it what it is. This is almost 500 pages of bigotry and hatred against Christians and Christianity. It's also very political in nature. Now you're piling on with political talk.
I'm completely baffled. I read my post again and fail to see anything political in what I said.

BTW, are you going to respond to this question?
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No. I don't hate "everything they are", nor do I believe that they shouldn't have rights. To continue to say that is bigotry. If you continue to insist that, I must call you a bigot. You fit the definition precisely.
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I notice you said that LGBT should have rights. Which rights do you think they should have?
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Old 12-11-2018, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Let's just call it what it is. This is almost 500 pages of bigotry and hatred against Christians and Christianity. It's also very political in nature. Now you're piling on with political talk.
Only when viewed through a darkened, narrow, bitter fundie lens.
 
Old 12-11-2018, 02:37 PM
 
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I'm completely baffled. I read my post again and fail to see anything political in what I said.

BTW, are you going to respond to this question?



You're talking rights, laws, political stuff. If this forum is about Christianity, then it's not about passing laws and rights.

And no, I won't respond to questions that will hijack the thread.
 
Old 12-11-2018, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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You're talking rights, laws, political stuff. If this forum is about Christianity, then it's not about passing laws and rights.

And no, I won't respond to questions that will hijack the thread.
The law of the bible is that one has to keep the laws of the nation they live in.......What is so baffling to me is the stance Fundies have on the laws as if they really had an opinion of the law they disrespect and refuse to keep. Christians wont even accept the ten commandments and I see them speaking against the laws of Moses all day long in a very bad light except when they think somebody is breaking a law they themselves reject when they reject all the law.

I wish somebody could explain to me why a Fundi thinks the law pertains to everyone but him? It is bizarre to see people teaching other people not to keep the law except when they pick and choose what laws are still valid for somebody else..

This mentality doesn't make any sense.
 
Old 12-11-2018, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I've actually read all the posts on this thread and regardless of all the "we love homosexuals, just not their sexual practices" (I,E. assumed "icky" anal sex) that is basically what it boils down to...…..(Ignoring the fact that some heteros do it do)
If anyone can show me that it relates to one damn thing other than the supposed certain sexual practices of homo or bisexual people, I'd be glad to her about it.
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