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Old 05-29-2010, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Wa
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Sciota I believe in one God, the one God that Jesus himself proclaimed as one God , not the trinity god , when you are saying God the son and God the Christ in essence you are talking about a number of gods.
That is incorrect. God the Son, God the Father, and God the Holy sprit are one God, meeting us on every level needed.
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Old 05-29-2010, 04:31 PM
 
Location: East Coast
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That is incorrect. God the Son, God the Father, and God the Holy sprit are one God, meeting us on every level needed.
How come Jesus Himself never referred to a trinity or him being a part of the trinity ? .

I fully understand what he meant when he said "when you have seen me you have seen the Father . What he was saying was not that he was some 2nd part of a trinity but "The reality of who God is"
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Old 05-29-2010, 04:42 PM
 
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How come Jesus Himself never referred to a trinity or him being a part of the trinity ?
He did on several occasions...not only by praying to the Father, but by claiming He was "I am". Isaiah chapter 9 is very clear about the manifestations of God for us, and that He did so in the Holy Spirit (our counsellor), The Son (our examplified living), and the Father (our endearing, loving dad/Abba Father).

When Christ claimed Himself the "son of man", this was a direct reference to Daniel's visions as the Son, of the Holy One, Him in the flesh, the man God.

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I fully understand what he meant when he said "when you have seen me you have seen the Father . What he was saying was not that he was some 2nd part of a trinity but "The reality of who God is"
God dwelling in the flesh correct?
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Old 05-29-2010, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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God dwelling in the flesh correct?
If Jesus was God dwelling in the flesh, and if there is only one God, who was it that Jesus was referring to as being "in Heaven"?
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Old 05-29-2010, 04:56 PM
 
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How come Jesus Himself never referred to a trinity or him being a part of the trinity ? "
The trinity presented itself at the baptism of Jesus.
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Old 05-29-2010, 04:57 PM
 
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If Jesus was God dwelling in the flesh, and if there is only one God, who was it that Jesus was referring to as being "in Heaven"?
The Father.
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Old 05-29-2010, 04:58 PM
 
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The trinity presented itself at the baptism of Jesus.
Yes.
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Old 05-29-2010, 05:01 PM
 
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The Father.
Who is also God, right? You do realize how confusing this is, don't you? I mean you say that the Father is God. (That's one person who is God.) You say that the Son is God. (That's a second person who is God.) You say that the Holy Ghost is God. (That's a third person who is God.) And then you turn around and tell me that there is only one God. Is this supposed to be easy or am I just really, really dense?

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Old 05-29-2010, 05:02 PM
 
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The trinity presented itself at the baptism of Jesus.
And there were clearly three distinct entities.
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Old 05-29-2010, 05:06 PM
 
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The trinity presented itself at the baptism of Jesus.
Who says it does ?


Did God say this is my beloved God the son ?

Or did he say this is my beloved son ?
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